Axel

As I was posting on the other topic that is pretty similar to this one, Dodge has a reputation. They put out overpriced cars, that's what they do. Unless this new company comes in and changes things, it's going to remain that way. You have an Avenger that's cheaper then the Stratus, but the engines are underpowered. You have an SRT-8 that's in the $40,000 price range, that's more then my 2003 Dodge Ram 2500 5.7L SLT Sport Quad Cab was. A base Neon SRT-4 was $4,000-$5,000 more then the R/T, why are things going to change now?

The SRT would be on the same level, or near, as the Shelby line and the Shelby line took a sharp jump compared to the GT line. I can see the R/T being on the same line as the GT line, especially being that it already has more HP then the GT, so I can see it being just a little more priced as Dodge does. But when we start jumping up to the higher HP cars, we are definitely going to be paying more for them. Until I hear differently from a credible souce or see the pricing on Dodge, I'm going to go by their current reputation, which I do hope does change.

Axel

As I was posting on the other topic that is pretty similar to this one, Dodge has a reputation. They put out overpriced cars, that's what they do. Unless this new company comes in and changes things, it's going to remain that way. You have an Avenger that's cheaper then the Stratus, but the engines are underpowered. You have an SRT-8 that's in the $40,000 price range, that's more then my 2003 Dodge Ram 2500 5.7L SLT Sport Quad Cab was. A base Neon SRT-4 was $4,000-$5,000 more then the R/T, why are things going to change now?

The SRT would be on the same level, or near, as the Shelby line and the Shelby line took a sharp jump compared to the GT line. I can see the R/T being on the same line as the GT line, especially being that it already has more HP then the GT, so I can see it being just a little more priced as Dodge does. But when we start jumping up to the higher HP cars, we are definitely going to be paying more for them. Until I hear differently from a credible souce or see the pricing on Dodge, I'm going to go by their current reputation, which I do hope does change.

georgejetson

The "garbage from allpar" on the Charger turned out to be dead-on, right down to a detailed pencil drawing of the car months before official images or spy shots showed up. Same deal with most of the other new models in the last 4-5 years. If you want "credible sources" that's the place to go -- IF you know who to pay attention to.

If you guys want to wallow in cluelessness, that's fine, I'll leave you to it. It's not exactly the way to promote traffic to your board, but that's not my problem.

Axel

I apologize for the extra posts, I was getting an error each time I tried to post. If there's some way to delete two of those, by all means please let me know.

In all honesty I think we all feel the same way around here, rumors turn around into a firey discussion and people getting upset and throwing fits, kind of like now, that's why people like to stick to the facts here. The only way something is fact is if it come straight from the source, not this website and not that website. We don't mind talking about it, but when people turn around and say it's going to happen and there's no actual proof to back it up, that's when things get heated.

I like to believe the 6.4 will come out, very possible, I like to believe that a 7.0 will come out, probably not happening, but we aren't going to say it's happening because of hearsay. We like to say that right now it's just speculation, price is just specualtion, but when someone comes in and says that it's fact, that's when things get a little touchy.


DodgeInfoCenter on here has confirmed two things, the 6.1 and the 5.7, nothing really much more then that, no price, no engines above that, nothing else, just that we won't be disappointed.

1 Bad Mirada

and i should point out that DodgeInfoCenter is a member of the Dodge marketing division...also, i have AIM, so if anyone wants to talk to me, er..i mean some "SRT engineers" , hit me...umm..i mean hit them up... remember, big news about the challenger production at the dream cruise..?

i kid i kid..but seriously...

george, i base my opinions on that site on the people who are the most active.."be judged by those with whom you keep company". one of the most active rumor-posters over there is nothing more than a 19 year old lot boy at a dodge dealership. he used to post frequently at one of my other sites, claiming information as his own, when we found that he was just copying information from the dodge media site and putting his name on it.

while im aware that allpar does have some good information, they also have some ridiculous rumors...that was the site, that a year ago or so, had "information" about how the challenger was going to cost $19,000. the members and staff here hear all of the rumors, and while some of them may prove to be true, i would rather have a forum filled with known facts than filled half with facts and half with dreamers rumors. maybe the challenger will only cost 30,000 for the 6.1L model. that would be ideal, as it would really
"stick it" to the mustang, but in the last 5 or 6 years, nothing about dodges pricing tables have suggested that the challenger, or any other car released, will be a bargain vehicle. i just dont see them undercutting the other 6.1L cars by 8-13 thousand dollars..unless cerberus is taking the company in a whole different direction.

axel, ill take care of those extra posts..not a problem.

HXC Performance

Obviously not.. I never said the Super Stock was a preview of the Production model. All I said is that the Super Stock was built to promote the 392 Hemi. Would seem like a large waste of resources if the vehicles only intent was to sell some Crate Motors.

I'd be perfectly happy with a 5.7 and $30,999. I'm more interested in the price being kept down.. lower base price allows for a higher potential aftermarket business.

As much as we have no evidence of there ever being a 6.4 Challenger.. Dodge has also never had 3 Hemi options in one vehicles.

A 6.1 Hemi just will not cut it when the Camaro SS comes out, and already against the GT500. On top of that the Challenger will probably weigh 4,000 pounds.

I have no problem accepting a 5.7 R/T, 6.1 SRT, then a special edition 6.4. But Chrysler has never gone that route before, so its the same as assuming we'll see a 6.1 R/T then a 6.4 SRT. Two possibilities, neither of which Chrysler has done before, speculate what you will.

Axel

But, something to keep in mind that this isn't Daimler anymore. Just because they haven't done it in the past doesn't mean they aren't going to do it now. If they are talking about making a change in the engines in 09 and keep things the way they are in 08, it's very possible we'll see different engine "options" if you will, just in different years. If they are watching how all the Mustangs are selling and if they are seeing that they are selling a lot of money, GT, Boss, Buillet, California addition, Shelby GT, Shelby GT500, Shelby it has my name on it so it costs more, then I can see Chrysler doing something similar, just not to the same extremes. There are way to many different Mustangs out there with a small change in this or that just to make more money.

1 Bad Mirada

also, in the past, dodge/chrysler/plymouth never really HAD more than one hemi to market...now, they probably will...

Jeremiah 29:11

Sure, occassionally a blind pig with find the corn, just like a fortune teller will sometimes be accurate.

I am not hear to put people or websites down, but would like people to take a lot of data sources before they draw conclusions.

Many people will read something on a website and think it is gospel. It is easy to read half truths and believe the whole thing because
it partly sounds true.


We have speculating for over 18 months and it gets kind of old and wastes of lot of energy, unless, unless, unless, someone finds that good "corn" of information
that is accurate and true.

I think what is more fruitful, is if you talked about how you are going to save your money up financially so you can get this $30K-$50K car.

That is something you can sink you teeth into. Unfortunately, many people will not be available to afford this car or the insurance. That is just reality.

This forum has been up for 18 months, has anybody really started to save up their money up to this point?

1 Bad Mirada

we have been putting off buy a new car in preparation for the challenger, and if its not the challenger, it will possibly be a 300.