Notices
Off Topic A place to boldly go off topic. Just about anything goes.

Good Gas News!!

Old 05-22-2008, 11:26 AM
  #1  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Paladin06's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: East Valley AZ
Posts: 2,722
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Good Gas News!!

Subject: Tips on Pumping Gas
> >
> > Knowledge is power! Some say it works significantly, others say only
>minimal savings.....check www.snopes.com for more info.
> >
> > TIPS ON PUMPING GAS?
> >
> > I don't know what you guys are paying for gasoline.... But here in
>California, we are also paying higher. Up to $3.50 per gallon. But my line
>of work is in petroleum for about 31 Years now, so here are some tricks to
>get more of your money's worth for Every gallon.
> >
> > Here at the Kinder Morgan Pipeline where I work in San Jose, CA we
> > Deliver about 4 million gallons in a 24-hour period through the
>pipeline. One day it's diesel the next day is jet fuel, and gasoline,
>regular and premium Grades. We have 34-storage tanks here with a total
>capacity of 16,800,000 gallons.
> >
> > Only buy or fill up your car or truck in the early morning when the
>Ground temperature is still cold. Remember that all service stations have
>their Storage tanks buried below ground. The colder the ground the more
>Dense the gasoline, when it gets warmer gasoline expands, so buying in the
>Afternoon or in the evening....your gallon is not exactly a gallon. In The
>petroleum business, the specific gravity and the temperature of the
>Gasoline, diesel and jet fuel, ethanol and other petroleum products plays
>An important role.
> >
> > A 1-degree rise in temperature is a big deal for this business. But The
>service stations do not have temperature compensation at the pumps.
> >
> > When you're filling up do not squeeze the trigger of the nozzle to a
>Fast mode. If you look you will see that the trigger has three (3) stages:
> > Low, middle, and high. In slow mode you should be pumping on low speed,
>thereby Minimizing the vapors that are created while you are pumping. All
>hoses at The pump have a vapor return. If you are ?pumping on the fast
>rate, Some other liquid that goes to your tank becomes vapor. Those vapors
>are being Sucked up and back into the underground storage tank so you're
>getting less Worth for your money
> >
> > One of the most important tips is To fill up when your gas tank is HALF
>FULL or HALF EMPTY. The reason for this Is, the more gas you have in your
>?tank the less air occupying its empty Space. Gasoline evaporates faster
>than you can imagine. Gasoline storage tanks
> > Have an internal floating roof. This roof serves as zero clearance
>between the Gas and the atmosphere, so it minimizes the evaporation. Unlike
>service Stations, here where I work, every truck that we load is
>temperature compensated So that every gallon is actually the exact amount.
> >
> > Another Reminder, if there is a gasoline truck pumping into the storage
>tanks when you Stop to buy gas, DO NOT fill up--most likely the gasoline is
>?being stirred Up as the gas is being delivered, and you might pick up some
>of the dirt that Normally settles on the bottom. Hope this will help you
>get the most value For your money.
> >
> > DO SHARE THESE TIPS WITH OTHERS!
> >
> > WHERE TO BUY USA GAS, THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO KNOW. READ ON
> >
> > Gas rationing in the 80's worked even though we grumbled About it. It
>might even be good for us! The Saudis are boycotting American Goods. We
>should return the favor.
> >
> > An interesting thought is to Boycott their GAS.
> >
> > Every time you fill up the car, you can avoid putting more Money into
>the coffers of Saudi Arabia. Just buy from gas companies that Don't import
>their oil from the Saudis.
> >
> > Nothing is more frustrating than The feeling
Old 05-22-2008, 11:43 AM
  #2  
Senior Member
 
RoswellGrey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location:
Posts: 2,755
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: Good Gas News!!


ORIGINAL: Paladin06


> > Gas rationing in the 80's worked even though we grumbled About it.


Gas rationing in the '80s? Did they do that in the 1880s? I never heard about it in the 1980s. Nobody ever asked me for my rationing book.
Old 05-22-2008, 01:19 PM
  #3  
Senior Member
 
npeifer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location:
Posts: 172
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: Good Gas News!!

6 Gas-Saving Myths
by Peter Valdes-Dapena
Thursday, May 15, 2008
provided by

Sure you want to save gas, but there's a lot of bad advice on how to do it. Some of it makes no difference, and some of it can wind up costing you.

With gasoline prices hitting record levels, it seems everyone has a tip on how to save fuel. Much of the advice is well-intentioned, but in the end, much of it won't lower your gas bill.

Here's a look at a few misconceptions:

#1. Fill Your Tank in the Morning

More from CNNMoney.com:

• Gallery: Cars, Which-Wheel-Drive for You

• Gallery: Top 10 Dirt-Cheap Cars

• 5 Dumb Car-Shopping Moves

You may have heard that it's best to fill your gas tank in the early morning while the fuel is cold. The theory goes that fluids are more dense at lower temperatures, so a gallon of cold gas actually has more gas molecules than a gallon of warmer gas.

But the temperature of the gasoline as it comes out of the nozzle varies little during the course of the day, according to Consumer Reports, so there's little, if any, benefit, to getting up early to pump gas.

#2. Change Your Air Filter

Maintaining your car is important, but a clean air filter isn't going to save you any gas. Modern engines have computer sensors that automatically adjust the fuel-air mixture as an increasingly clogged air filter chokes off the engine's air supply.

While engine power will decrease slightly as the air filter becomes clogged, a lack of performance or an increase in fuel consumption will be negligible, Consumer Reports says.

#3. Use Premium Fuel

With prices already over $4.00 a gallon, premium gasoline is a hard sell these days. But a lot of drivers think because their owners' manual recommends premium, they'll get better fuel economy if they stick with it. Really, they're paying more money for nothing.

Even cars for which premium is recommended won't suffer with regular fuel. Modern engine technology comes to the rescue again. When sensors detect regular instead of premium fuel, the system automatically adjusts spark plug timing. The result is a slight reduction in peak horsepower - really, you'll never notice - but no reduction in fuel economy.

#4. Pump Up Your Tires

Proper tire inflation is important for a number of reasons. Under-inflated tires are bad for handling and can even cause a crash. Improper tire inflation also causes tires to wear out faster and to heat up more, which could trigger a dangerous high-speed blow-out.

According to on-the-road driving tests by both Consumer Reports and auto information site Edmunds.com, underinflated tires reduce fuel economy, so proper inflation is key.

But you should never over-inflate your tires. They'll get you slightly better fuel economy because there will be less tread touching the road, reducing friction. But that means less grip for braking and turning. The added risk of a crash isn't worth the extra mile a gallon you might gain.

#5. To A/C or Not A/C

There's no question air-conditioning makes extra work for the engine, increasing fuel use. But car air conditioners are much more efficient today than they used to be. In around-town driving, using the A/C will drop fuel economy by about a mile a gallon.

More from Yahoo! Finance:

• Burn Less Fuel on Your Road Trips

• 2 Simple Steps to Save on Gas Costs

• Find Out Which Hotels Are Doling Out Free Fuel

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Visit the Family & Home Center

Meanwhile, driving at higher speeds with the windows down greatly increases aerodynamic drag. As speed increases, drag becomes more of an issue, making A/C use the more efficient choice at high speeds.

At most speeds and in most vehicles, A/C use drains slightly more fuel than driving with the windows down, contends David Champion, head of auto testing for Consumer Reports. "My final ta
Old 05-22-2008, 02:31 PM
  #4  
Senior Member
 
jh27_1970's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 287
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: Good Gas News!!


ORIGINAL: RoswellGrey


ORIGINAL: Paladin06


> > Gas rationing in the 80's worked even though we grumbled About it.


Gas rationing in the '80s? Did they do that in the 1880s? I never heard about it in the 1980s. Nobody ever asked me for my rationing book.
Yes they did !!! might have been late 70's But it was odd number even on your plate you could only by gas every other day only on interstates was it not rationed but $5 went alot further then .. that was the "historical Highs" they used to tak about till we blew threw them months ago
Old 05-22-2008, 03:03 PM
  #5  
Senior Member
 
Andre@Edge's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,403
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: Good Gas News!!

If I remember correctly, that was the first time the USA saw gas above 1.00.....

That seems sooooo long ago....
Old 05-22-2008, 03:37 PM
  #6  
Super Moderator
 
RLSH700's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location:
Posts: 4,057
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: Good Gas News!!

There are some issues that I have with this article. First of all, Amoco? That name has been officially retired for gas and has been replaced by BP. They later list BP with Phillips which is completely inaccurate. The other problem is ARCO is connected to BP. Secondly, you might as well lump Conoco and Phillips together as they are known as ConocoPhillips. Thirdly, this article is purely subjective as the fact of the matter is many of these gas stations outside of ConocoPhillips are smaller gas companies and can only be found in a few areas. I have never seen a Hess in my life, nor a ARCO, we don't have a Sunoco anywhere near by, Sinclair is in the area where I used to live but not currently, (though we don't have a Marathon either) but I'm sure that many of these people who wrote that have probably never heard of Gateway F/S, MFA Oil, and probably don't know what a Casey's is either. What are people supposed to do when these are not located in their areas. The other issue that is not being discussed is where are these other companies are getting their oil from. Some of it probably is domestic, but I seriously doubt they can be 100% domestic, especially ConocoPhilips. They could be getting it from countries like Venezuela, Angola, and Ecuador which are part of OPEC but are not from the Middle East and some of these countries (Venezuela) have issues worth boycotting as well. My advise to the person who originally wrote this, do your homework first before you prove how little you know about the situation. The best way to change things is flood your politicians with phone calls and e-mails to quit stopping production of oil domestically. It was doing this that caused the oil prices to plummet.
__________________
"To Debate and Moderate" since 2006

College Graduate:
B.S. in Marketing
A.A. in nothing

The first 426 Dual Quad member.
The first to 2000 posts

Old 05-22-2008, 04:47 PM
  #7  
Senior Member
 
RoswellGrey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location:
Posts: 2,755
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: Good Gas News!!


ORIGINAL: jh27_1970


ORIGINAL: RoswellGrey


ORIGINAL: Paladin06


> > Gas rationing in the 80's worked even though we grumbled About it.


Gas rationing in the '80s? Did they do that in the 1880s? I never heard about it in the 1980s. Nobody ever asked me for my rationing book.
Yes they did !!! might have been late 70's But it was odd number even on your plate you could only by gas every other day only on interstates was it not rationed but $5 went alot further then .. that was the "historical Highs" they used to tak about till we blew threw them months ago
Yeah, that was in the '70s. And it wasn't anything formal like that article seems to imply. I was in Des Moines, Iowa, during both gas crisises (in '73-'74 and the brief one in '79), and -- aside from some stations closing earlier than normal and not being open on Sundays -- there was never any real problem getting gas. I know in a few parts of the country -- especially big cities in the northeast -- such things as odd/even license plate distribution did occur.




Old 05-22-2008, 06:53 PM
  #8  
Senior Member
 
mopar2ya's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location:
Posts: 2,840
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: Good Gas News!!


Article is rought with speculative hyperbola... whatever that is...
Old 05-25-2008, 05:23 AM
  #9  
Senior Member
 
Cuda340's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 1,734
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default RE: Good Gas News!!


[quote]ORIGINAL: npeifer

6 Gas-Saving Myths
by Peter Valdes-Dapena
Thursday, May 15, 2008
provided by

#5. To A/C or Not A/C

There's no question air-conditioning makes extra work for the engine, increasing fuel use. But car air conditioners are much more efficient today than they used to be. In around-town driving, using the A/C will drop fuel economy by about a mile a gallon.

I agree with your statement when speeds are under 60 mph. However, it has been proven that A/C will give you better fuel economy when speeds are over 60 mph because your car will have less drag (i.e., less air turbulence) with the windows closed.
Old 05-29-2008, 08:09 PM
  #10  
Rei
Junior Member
 
Rei's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location:
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: Good Gas News!!

Great article...really helpful and informative!
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
SKiDs33t
General Dodge Challenger Discussions
5
10-16-2008 06:48 AM
fatcat
General Dodge Challenger Discussions
20
09-10-2008 05:53 PM
CoolestChallenger873
General Dodge Challenger Discussions
17
03-08-2007 08:23 PM
RLSH700
Off Topic
3
09-06-2006 04:07 PM


Quick Reply: Good Gas News!!



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 10:46 AM.