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Jeremiah 29:11 02-16-2008 10:23 AM

2008 Challenger vs. Charger Super Bee vs. Concept engine compartment
 
Some of you will will remember these pictures I took over a year ago at the Texas State Fair.


So what differences do you see in the engine compartments from the 2008 Challenger to the Charger Super Bee.

Now compare those to the Concept Challenger.

I wonder how difficult it will be to get an aftermarket kit to convert it to a dual hood scoop induction intake.

My guess is you will need to change out the hood or go to dual hoses for each scoop.

Did anybody get any good pictures underneath the hood to see how the air intakes chambers are routed.

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HEMI04 02-17-2008 05:50 AM

RE: 2008 Challenger vs. Charger Super Bee vs. Concept engine compartment
 
i'm sure CDC or someone else will make a functional hood for it. I know when the 05 mustangs came out everyone started making a kr style hood right away, even for the 99-04 mustangs. aslong as the hood has the "port" to go straight to the airbox (3) the only thing that would matter is water. http://www.mustangmods.com/ims/u/1456/2202/223023.jpg didn't a company make a water proof kit for the rams with the viper style hoods??? i remember seeing a ugly black box with a uncovered filter...

tupperware 02-17-2008 09:22 AM

RE: 2008 Challenger vs. Charger Super Bee vs. Concept engine compartment
 

ORIGINAL: Jeremiah 29:11

Did anybody get any good pictures underneath the hood to see how the air intakes chambers are routed.

are you asking about the air intakes from the hood scoops? If so, they are not routed anywhere... the rectangular black duct is all that was there on the cars I saw...

https://dodgechallenger.com/forums/a...s487721896.jpg

Jeremiah 29:11 02-17-2008 12:33 PM

RE: 2008 Challenger vs. Charger Super Bee vs. Concept engine compartment
 
Sorry that picture was too small for me to see.


Well I guess we will have to make those hole to the intake or maybe the 2009.5 might be a little different.

tupperware 02-17-2008 03:19 PM

RE: 2008 Challenger vs. Charger Super Bee vs. Concept engine compartment
 


ORIGINAL: Jeremiah 29:11

Sorry that picture was too small for me to see.


Well I guess we will have to make those hole to the intake or maybe the 2009.5 might be a little different.
I changed the link to show a bigger picture, not sure why I cant get the pic to show up in the post...

Paladin06 02-17-2008 03:38 PM

RE: 2008 Challenger vs. Charger Super Bee vs. Concept engine compartment
 
So what good are they??

tupperware 02-17-2008 04:10 PM

RE: 2008 Challenger vs. Charger Super Bee vs. Concept engine compartment
 
I guess they just look good...from what I saw, if someone wants to make a true ram air system, you will have to start with the hood scoop. The actual air inlet is nowhere as big as the mesh screen in the hood.. the current setup could not allow for much airflow....

Jeremiah 29:11 02-17-2008 04:52 PM

RE: 2008 Challenger vs. Charger Super Bee vs. Concept engine compartment
 
Here is the same picture but I expanded it by 50% and your are right it is small.

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RLSH700 02-18-2008 08:06 PM

RE: 2008 Challenger vs. Charger Super Bee vs. Concept engine compartment
 
I'm sure that you will be able to get something like that aftermarket if not custom if you want it badly enough.

Jeremiah 29:11 02-18-2008 08:12 PM

RE: 2008 Challenger vs. Charger Super Bee vs. Concept engine compartment
 
Definitely a want but not a need. I will enjoy installing it though. Kinda like having forced induction without the expense. I hoping to see it on the 2009.5.

RLSH700 02-18-2008 08:22 PM

RE: 2008 Challenger vs. Charger Super Bee vs. Concept engine compartment
 


ORIGINAL: Jeremiah 29:11

Definitely a want but not a need. I will enjoy installing it though. Kinda like having forced induction without the expense. I hoping to see it on the 2009.5.
Possible that they might do it with the manual, but they might not be able to do it on the automatic model. I remember reading that the W5A580 can only handle up to 427 ft-lbs of tq, hence the name the "580" in the name stands for how much torque in nMs, 580nM=427.78602 ft-lbs of tq. Like I keep saying, they need a different automatic than that MB unit.

Jeremiah 29:11 02-18-2008 08:27 PM

RE: 2008 Challenger vs. Charger Super Bee vs. Concept engine compartment
 
That is okay, all I want is a manual so I am good to go. I repeat again, I am good to go. (Behind Enemy Lines) :D

RLSH700 02-19-2008 07:18 AM

RE: 2008 Challenger vs. Charger Super Bee vs. Concept engine compartment
 


ORIGINAL: Jeremiah 29:11

That is okay, all I want is a manual so I am good to go. I repeat again, I am good to go. (Behind Enemy Lines) :D
Well, I know that, I'm just providing a possible explanation on why this one didn't have that, it's probably due to limitations of the transmission.

kevin2323 02-19-2008 11:56 AM

RE: 2008 Challenger vs. Charger Super Bee vs. Concept engine compartment
 
i dunno RLSH700 ive seen chargers on the lx forums pushing 600+ rwhp with a twin turbo set up on the charger.. and that has the same transmission as the chally.

RLSH700 02-23-2008 07:28 AM

RE: 2008 Challenger vs. Charger Super Bee vs. Concept engine compartment
 


ORIGINAL: kevin2323

i dunno RLSH700 ive seen chargers on the lx forums pushing 600+ rwhp with a twin turbo set up on the charger.. and that has the same transmission as the chally.
You can do efforts to beef them up. I'm just saying at the stock level I've been told they have the 427.7 tq limit.

Jeremiah 29:11 02-23-2008 09:04 AM

RE: 2008 Challenger vs. Charger Super Bee vs. Concept engine compartment
 
For me I am waiting for the road test perfomance from the Magazines and equal car comparisons (like automatic agains automatics etc.) before I get into a peeing contest.

RamHemi05 02-26-2008 06:18 AM

RE: 2008 Challenger vs. Charger Super Bee vs. Concept engine compartment
 
I'd have to say that they both look alike. ;)


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