As for the deal on the Challenger, when I went to my local Denver dealer, he told me that the owner of the dealership had already secured the 1st Challenger. I asked about a 2nd Challenger and after he made a couple of calls, the sales manager said that I could have the second one. So, after putting 5k down, they wrote up a buyers order. The owner of the dealership required that I agree to paying 10k over the retail sticker (ugh!) but what are you going to do if you want one of the first ones? As it gets closer to the end of the year, I will be able to specify what options I want on the Challenger. I love my Charger but will be selling it soon and plunking that money in a CD until the Challenger comes in. I'm going to need it...lol.