I'll pay 2-3k over msrp max, but if there is one thing I've learned in life is NEVER RUSH IN, patience always pays off in the end when it comes to buying new. Or even wait till some shmuck has to sell his 08 Challey cause he can't afford to feed it or to insure it. Nothing wrong with letting other people take the upfront hit on on something new and then swoop in to make a deal on something that is as good as new.