Yea, i was thinking it would be closer to the 600 range, im going to be paying my own insurance, i live in the country. I have no credit except for the student loans that im paying on. My license isnt clean either one more ticket and i lose them so that isnt going to look good on insurance. I figure i will wait a year and save up.. In the mean time enjoy my 1970 Torino GT that i will have done in the spring.