That is true, I read it on Charger Forums. They took a 5.7 and stroked it. From what I read MDS system still worked and the engine pushed some major ponies. Now its one bad puppy. The after market is catching up to the HEMIs and when the Challenger gets here we will have options. I hear some good things on plug in engine managment systems and TTI headers and a slew of open element air cleaners and air tubes. We are at the tip of the iceberg and good things are coming our way