Well considering I have grown up at dealerships since I was about 6 and the fact that my father has been managing dealerships for around 30 years might give me a little insight. For some reason he has always been able to make the dealerships turn very good profits without taking advantage of people. Like i said before, there are dealers (meat market dealers) that will screw you out of every penny they possibly can to earn extra money, and then there are the respectable dealers that know how to effeciently run a dealership to make large profits without screwing people. One of the dealerships he is currently over has a vehicle that other dealers are selling for 5k to 10k over MSRP but they are selling theirs for MSRP. Have you ever noticed when you buy a car there are doc fees? At the dealerships he is over the doc fees are only $150. Other dealers around the area of the same brands are charging $500 to $600 for doc fees. If you can't see there are two different types of dealerships then you have your eyes closed. Meat market dealers are across all brands and give dealerships bad names.