Yeah, I dont have the money to pay over MSRP, but I'm not going to mad at the dealers who sale it over-price, as long as some have more money than patience, it will always happen. But also, just like the PT cruiser, crossfire, etc, I think this car will be affordable. They cant afford to alienate the diehards twice. To many people have their hopes up. So if they dont perform its....... [sm=bangbang.gif]