RE: Is anyone suprised by the quality of the base model
Billionaire, the Challenger doesn't weigh 4K pounds until it has the Hemi dropped into it. On top of this the Charger and 300 have the 3.5L equipped with the same engine, and the acceleration times range from the mid 7s to 8 sec range in the 0-60 range. Although this is not Hemi category, it is certainly not disgraceful either. If they make the V6 too fast, why would anyone want to people want to pay the extra price for the Hemi when they will have to pay more at the dealership, at the insurance office, at the pump, etc. beyond the hardcore fans.
70sguy, I'd say originally that is what it meant way back in the day but it certainly does not mean that these days as that has become the base model badge. I would say it would stand for Standard Edition.
Chris, although I agree that the 4-speed is last generation's technology, the fact of the matter is the only 5-speed Chrysler would use has already been tried on the Charger with this engine and it yielded NO advantages over the 4-speed. The acceleration times are the same and the fuel economy is the same. All that you will get with the 5-speed is bragging rights and a higher price tag. If you guys want this model to be as closely priced to the Mustang as possible, sacrifices will be needed to make. Count your blessings that you will have better fuel economy than the automatic V6 Mustang and that the 3.5L has a pretty much bulletproof history when the 4.0L hasn't been as lucky since it got its SOHC treatment.
Axel, nothing would make me happier than to see the SXT badge on the Avenger disappear (especially if it takes the 2.7L V6 with it) and I think it has lost its original purpose. They have struggled to decide its roll as it replaced the R/T on the Intrepid, it replaced the SE on the Stratus, it replaced the ES on the Caravan, etc. Make up your mind Chrysler.
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