Zman, have you reached some Zen like enlightenment? Seems like you're perfectly neutral, not too environmentally conscious but also not ignorant. Do you see the self aggrandizement in this statement? Other than myself, and possibly Chuck Norris, none of us are perfect.

It reminds me of the comic's skit where the boy learned something....everyone driving slower than his father was an idiot and everyone driving faster was a maniac.

Does this analogy help at all?

I think I'm right and think you're wrong, but I understand that me thinking it doesn't necessarily make it so. It's human condition. I hope some of this rings true.

As far as protecting the environment; please don't relegate people who don't attribute climate change solely or largely to human cause as not caring about the environment.

It's too simplistic. I would back legislation that kept mercury and lead out of the environment as they have proven SCIENTIFICALLY the effects of these elements on living creatures. OR when they don't want raw sewage or fine companies for not disposing of their toxic waste to where it can leach into the water.

While the rest of us may not have reached your perfect level of environmental incite, it doesn't mean we're totally ignorant. Now, excuse me while I go dump my used motor oil down the storm drain.