I think the post got off track a little bit. I don't mind spirited debate either but really, I think we are here more for the cars(I hope). My original intention was just to draw the comparison between the so called "fuel saving" 4 cyl's vs. the "gas guzzling" V8. My original point was the 4 cyl performance vehicles that are comparable to the V8 cars show little, if any, fuel economy difference. I was having a hard time understanding where all this praise for these vehicles is coming from. I had a fuel injected 5.0 Mustang years ago that ran 13.9@100mph in the quarter and achieved a best of 31mpg on a straight highway cruise. I could usually average 29 - 30mpg as long as I kept the speeds to no greater than 65mph. The other thing to remember is that the mileage ratings were downgraded this year in order to show a "more realistic" mileage figure. Truthfully I have always managed to get the mpg that was advertised with the old rating. My opinion is that the new Challengers will see better mileage than what they are advertised for. In some cases maybe a decent jump more. This of course assumes that at the time you are driving it for mileage. RLSH700, thanks for trying to pull the thread back to the original conversation.