ORIGINAL: MrKrisSullivan
ok wait a minute!!!
Why would they need to put a 6.3 liter engine in it to get 402 horsepower???? The LS3 is 6.2 and puts out 425, the LS2 is 6.0 and puts out 400/ as in the GTO
You've gotta be kidding!!! All this G8 non-sense is just to steal the sales from the Charger, which it will undoubtly.
The GTO was in-deed ahead of its time, proofs in the pudding the G8 is coming out with a 6.0 and is only putting out 361 or maybe 381 prolly 381 but i'll make sure later anyways that's the same engine in the 2006 LS2 GTO - that put out 400 ponies- their selling you a de-tuned engine for more with 4 doors. Does anyone relize this but me?? Come on!
The GTO will smash any of these cars but the vette' and I'll bet it could take a Cobra 500kr yada yada.
Look at the new moter-trend mag on sheleves now theres a big article on the G8 vs. Charger.
Me personally have been defending the GTO on this site since I first started posting. And now im gonna say it. The challenger looks good. But that's it. The GTO is my next car via LS2 2006 and black period.
To make a G8 coupe ticks me off because they killed the GTO when they didn't know what they wanted to do and they were all over it and didn't know it. What a shame. I could care less about this G8 but the GTO will soon be mine. Running 0-60 in under 5 secs easily. Plus the GTO was orginally someone elses idea right? Then they left maybe?? Correct me if im wrong. It's obvious that the 4 door market is way bigger so they Killed the GTO to bring in the G8 and sell the same parts and the whole time the better car was already built. Peace...
Where are you getting 6.3L? The article says 6.2L and the LS3 is only a 6.2L engine. The reason for the 402hp is probably one of two reasons: 1. Due to spacing needs the engine had to have something changed like the intake that made it lose power, or 2. They are doing the exact same thing they did back when they gave both the Firebird/Camaro and the Corvette the LS1. They are doctoring the numbers to try to avoid sales cannibalization. Or it could be a combo of both.
Will the G8 take some sales from the Charger? Some for sure, but I wouldn't say its curtains for the Charger either. Dodge has a better track record in large car sales in recent years than Pontiac so don't be too sure. The reason why the 6.0L puts out less power in the G8 as it did in the GTO is because the 6.0L is a L76 not a LS2. The L76 has Active Fuel Management (similar to MDS) and is a compromise engine between performance and fuel economy like the 5.7L Hemi is.
The GTO will be able to smash any of these cars? What cars are you referring to? And what does the Vette vs. the GT500KR have to do with this thread?
I don't recall us constantly putting you on the defense of the GTO, it is a car that although I'm not crazy about the exterior styling, I think was a good package overall. I will have to disagree with you on the Challenger "looks good but that's it." comment. Depending on which magazine you prefer, the different ones had different outcomes with the GTO on top and others had the Charger SRT-8 on top and in both cases they were comparing the manual to the Charger's automatic. The Challenger is going to have the more efficient TR-6060 manual that will allow us to see what the more powerful 6.1L Hemi can do. The other thing is the top speed of the GTO was around 159mph according to R&T magazine, whereas the Challenger is claimed to be in the 170mph territory.
I can understand your frustration with naming the coupe the G8 coupe as in my opinion that route is unoriginal (just like the name G8 is) and would be nicer to see the GTO badge used instead.