Thanks Joani, it seems the members on this forum are the only honest people we can count on when it comes to these new Dodge Challengers ...Its a real shame I think! Here I am with the cash to buy a new car and wanting to buy one even though the economy is slowing down, car sales are at a low and gas prices are skyrocketing and Dodge is playing sales tactic games when I think a lot of people want this new Challenger but are getting really frustrated and I'm afraid some might turn to the Mustangs which are really hot and reasonably priced, or the new Camaro, which I understand will be EASY to buy as soon as its announced. I'm a loyal Mopar man for many years so I'll wait another couple of months but I hope at least ordering opens up soon! If anyone on here hears any concrete info on Dodge accepting orders for 2009's please post on here or E-mail me at... wboyd18993@aol.com.... Thanks all for listening, Fatcat