just mulling over what you guys and joani have said and the 09 options are what i really want. but currently i am an 08 waiter with a real low vin no. and finally hit d1 status. i am not gonna drop my order till i check out my car and then i am still gonna try to haggle em' down due to the fact i know they are not selling squat for cars and maybe leave em' hangin for a day or 2 while i test it. if i get a low badge to match my low vin i will buy her but if im stuck with tag 5000 or something like that that is going to be irrelevant to the value i don't think i will have much trouble taking an 09 instead.
ken