Challengersales01, thanks so much for the speedy reply and it told me a lot except how long in your opinion after the dealer has a signed order, placed that order with Dodge , got a confirmation from Dodge that the order is accepted with a VON number dop you think they would have a VIN number?? I just don't want to become a pest to my dealer which I currently have a very good relationship with. You might need this to check anything or does a VON number mean nothing? This is my VON #21968653If you just give me your opinion as to when I should expect a VIN number I will not bother you again .....for awhile...LOL...Thanks again FATCAT