The more you answer the more questions I think of! [sm=outcold.gif] By your last post I take that there is actually an insert that you can remove (from the ignition lock?) to disable the "keyless" feature? Thanks for all the info, and sorry to keep hounding you on this but the Dodge web site doesnt seem to have much information on this feature. The only thing I can find there is the text to read under the Remote Options section talking about a fast getaway and the fact that you have to have the keyfob with you. If theres photos or a video that go with it I cant view it.