Yeah your so right Dave... but most of these guys have only filled it up once. My Hemi Ram 03' gets 16 all around I reset it not more than a few month's ago it was getting about 15mpg's before the first four years. Now in the last several months it's gotten 16 or 16.1mpg's. I've almost tried to see if I could get to 17. Don't think it will happen Looking forward to seeing what they are getting when there broken in.