Sigh, heres another great example. I spent all morning calling dealerships across Canada, just to see what they were charging. I got probably a dozen at 52,500-57,000. Then I get ahold of a guy in Winnipeg, He says he has 4 Challys. 2 black, 1 orange and a silver on the way. I say ok, how much are you asking for them? He replies 72,000. So i say ok, so 20,000$ over msrp? He says "Yes, dealerships across canada have decided that this is the asking price, and you wont find any for under 70"

Sigh.