Brucer41 and Skidds and all other 2009 Challenger buyers that have a Challenger on order I am now convinced that we all will have to take the glue away from Andre and share it amoung ouselves as I honestly think we are going to have to go thru that long agonizing wait like they did for their 2008s . Sorry to say that but thats what its looking like to me but I hope any of us get them sooner than we expect I guess we can wish and dream a little while we are sniffffffffffffffing [sm=gears.gif]LOL best of luck to everyone Fat Cat