According to Road&Track the Camaro should be out early spring '09.They're gonna have 2 engine/trans packages available for the SS Trim.The 6spd man. will have 420hp and the 6spd auto will be 380hp.The manual with the 420hp might be some competition,but with the way the auto in the SRT shifts I really don't think so,guess we'll just have to wait and see.