I just want to apologise to the forum and its members for the triple post which I did thinking that my post were not going thru due to the error page popping up each time. But now I see they did go thru and I am really sorry . I will be more carefull in the future and I really do not think that Andre@Edge had anything to do with it. All though it may be the glue he suggested to use for the long Challenger wait. Thanks Andre LOL. Fat Cat[sm=gears.gif]