Whiplash, when you order a car and the dealer goes to his odering computer and places all your order info in and submits it he then gets a confirmation from Dodge that his order has been accepeted. At that time the dealer should print this out for you as it is called a VON -IE Vehicle Order Number. It has a number on it usually up in the right hand corner and a copy should be yours. If not then I can only assume the dealer is not being totally honest with you or perhaps he does not have an allotment for this order and it wasn't accepted by Dodge. Thats my best knowledge of the VON. Well not mine really , my wife worked at a dealer for 37 yrs, LOL. thats it , Fat Cat [sm=gears.gif]