Well, FatCat, I don't think any of their scheduling makes any difference. The scheduled build date for my Challenger was 8-26-08. Beyond that, nothing is listed on VinWIN. All other scheduled times are listed as "N/A." No estimated shipping dates, no estimated delivery date. My salesman sent me an e-mail yesterday saying simply that there's no change in status and he has no idea why or when the car is supposed to show up. The dealership hasn't gotten any SEs, just 2 R/Ts. I read on another board yesterday that as of 8-25, Brampton supposedly had switched over to making nothing but R/Ts for an entire month, then will go back to making SEs and R/Ts and, eventually, SRTs. I suppose they're more interested in making the R/Ts than SEs, since there obviously is a higher profit margin in the R/Ts (I seriously doubt the engine actually costs $10,000+ more than a V-6).