Thanks for the reply mopar2ya... I sat in a Black 2008 at a nearby dealer who I had been trying to buy one from. Played with the gizmo's and such. Started it 3 times. Did not get to drive it, but was convinced after that, that I needed one of these. That was back in late May or early June. I don't post much, because until I take delivery I won't really know the true feel of owning and driving this car. I know you post a lot on this forum. I don't remember how long you have had yours. But I look forward to sharing my experience once I get mine and learning from the other members how to enhance it.