the reason that people quote them is because they have a collection of line workers who like to spread rumors...and they turn those rumors into fact...or, they just post what everyone already knows...allpar is a FORUM...with a bunch of wannabe car and driver editors... i will say that they do have a great deal of information on past models, but when it comes to upcoming stuff, they are no more a source than this site is.

as for that employee pricing...when they say "employee pricing, they are implying that walk in customers get the same price as the employees, but that is seldom the case.