Thats what I was wondering about. That is why I said stock for stock, after the mods begin its how much money you throw at it. I was under the impression that the R/T had more ponies, but a heavier car. Samething we had in the 70s and it really did'nt keep the E-Bodies from being a favorite among the stories told about the good old days When my Gen. talks about bad cars from the 70s, they will always mention Cudas and Challengers. So let the legends begin and the tales start to be told about the next wave of American Muscle. This might be the last gasp.