RLSH700 you say that so much better than me

But my point exactly. I do not wish ill in the auto industry... as I have stated I am Dodge all the way. And what fun is that if they are gone. And what fun is it to not have a Camaro or a Mustang around to play against. And now they are building the cars I want. With flex lines they can do this and build the cars 75% of Americans want. I know this is a window of opportunity and its going to close. But I have watched cars come and go that I would not buy and now at this time they go belly up. Let the checks and balances we have, do their job. And get the US auto co. where they need to be, healthy and on the road to recovery. When they have done all they can and cut to the bone ( no bonuses, no perks, cut in salary and wages across the board, new management... because the old is inept, do all you can do) then start to look for help. As in Chapter XX. Its painful but if this is what it takes, lets go down that road.