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Old Dec 4, 2008 | 06:28 AM
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Default RE: US Auto Sales Bleak

No fears Bro,
I never intended to offend anyone, or sound truly irate. I just find it funny, and Chris, knowing me gave me a second laugh.
Politics was not my intent, just what is being spelled out by some people in Washington.
I did jump off topic in a strange sort of way.
The post was about US Auto Sales Bleak

I just saw starting at the bottom as an answer no one is considering. Imagine ME getting to use my money to help Dodge with yet another purchase. No money to the tax payer, but some zero interest loans, and a government rebate to get the terms needed to stay ahead.

American rebates for Americans. Buying American.
Not a crazy thought really. Kills many birds with a single stone, and upgates all cars to recent BS CAFE standards. Puts a whole new line on the road, and still forces the big 3 to come to an agreement with the awu, and caw to bring costs down. Chrysler has come a long way in a short time, and shows promise if finance allows the time.
What better way to raise funds then sell product?
What better way to keep plants open and production up.
Keep parts producers building parts
Move inventory in a hurry and boost buy all non-vintage non-emission cars (government added). We see increase in nearly all crisis categories. Workers stay at work, The big three are revised and truly American consumer owned.


The proverbial Chicken in every pot was not a political jab, but I should have said A CAR IN EVERY GARAGE. Out with the old, and in with the new. Detroit stays alive, the lenders get a note that has equity, and you can use a fat 5000-8000 check to go with dealer incentives to clear great points. I see no reason why we cant go interest free to raise capitol for the auto makers, until our government gives us a bit more on taxes for the interest paid.
Not a cure all, but a right step. The Obama comment was out of line when I look back. I should be clear about the taxes that will have unlucky enough to see an average of 200,000 per year in gains. I am all for Change, and look forward to seeing how he brings this country back! Before any of you say it…. I know it’s not that simple, and my figures are a revised guess based on what we are going through in the next 45 days.

They make this seem so hard guys. The automakers need 25-34 billion for the bail out.

Only way. Make a gas (floor) level of lets say 3.60-3.80 per gallon. No tax when gas goes above 3.60
Simple projections show we could finance the entire Auto bailout in less the 60 days at the current oil levels. After that, it’s a fund to keep gas at no more then 3.50 per gallon levels. Perhaps even subsidize a few programs.
It would pay the average consumer to “go green” or pay more. If you ad liability insurance into that fund, then you have no uninsured drivers on the road. If you have gas, you are insured for the minimum liability. This works on paper because the faster sports car eats up more gas, and pays higher insurance by default. Larger SUV’s use more gas and they pay higher.
We need a gas tax. We pay the 3.60 per gallon as Americans, and the bail out is straight forward! If this works, then the big 3 would be paying back the funds into the agreed gas fund. What better motivation, for competition to find cleaner burning cars.

We pay more for gas, but we have been kicked down that road. The automakers don’t pay back the government (so to speak), they pay the owner in America by paying for part of our fuel, or making better cars.
No politics this time I think. Sorry for the last rant. From the desk of a private business trying to make ends meet, I would rather spend more on gas and insure its price in the future. Then flat out raise taxes. One more revenue we should consider why gas is so low. We would need concessions with OPEC, but it’s win, win at this point. Saudi Arabia is getting ready to defy the next cutbacks imposed, and many other nations have defied it all ready. Gas should stay stable long enough to make this fund very substantial

And the whole insurance / gas thing…. Have you seen how many drive without insurance? Except for loan ratio insurance you would not have to carry uninsured motorist. The better your car does the cheaper the insurance. If you are an old lady from Pasadena and you drive twice a month… even lower. Electric, or cars the see 150 mpg or better are exempt? This way if you want to go green, you go GREEN. Drive a Challenger and pay a little more…
Let this fund be controlled, not by oil, but the DMV (a new division), or a private service

Even the police get a break to improve our safety because they are not out running in uninsured motorist, or writing the ticket.

Is this so simple it cant work, or is it just to easy to take the tax payers money to bailout a flawed industry in the dark on night.

This is a car debate, all politics aside and I hope my Apology and explanation keeps the thread alive.

The post name PEGS the problem. Sell cars, and start from the small guy and lets see how much trickles up to the CEO...
Can that be so wrong? We give to the American instead, and it gives the industries another chance to get in done. Americans are committed to paying this back, and the makers need to sell cars. Dealer incentives would go nuts, and every joe with a 7000 government check will qualify for something. Want the money, trade in an oil burner and drive out with interest free papers.

Just crazy guys.
at this point I truly understand why ignorance would be bliss... Sorry for the spelling.

No one disagrees that we need to find a way out, but people... why should we start at the top?

That wont fix the housing issues, but it sure will take about 30-50% of the impeding doom called Detroit at bay

Green house/global warming, employment, retirement benefits, and keeping the impression we still have enough power the all of the big 3 remain in tacked

Motivation for Americans to bet on the big 3

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