I gotta hand it to ya RLSH700 you know your stuff! It's just that it bums me out that you never hear much good press about the good american quality vehicles (Ford posting better quality grades that toyota for example- You never hear about that)! I'm a staunch believer in Amercan Made products and it breaks my Heart that the powers that be are giving this country away a piece at a time. Unfortunately I did have mucho problems with a brand new 99 Dakota R/T, (brakes, catalytic converter) and admittedly made me gun shy for a while on the Mopars. Having said that, I really like what Dodge et al has done in recent years, I mean how cool was the Viper and prowler and Magnum and Charger and now the Challenger! GM should look to Mother Mopar for some desing styling cues-the new Camaro aint gettin it! I'm new at all this forum stuff please bear with me! Seems like a real good group here for sure!