Everything I've found suugests that dealers are paying between $37k and $39.5K for these cars. Regardless of what fish story some try to tell a dealer will never sell a car at a loss. That being the case, you aren't going to get a new SRT8 for under $37k. Especially since Chrysler isn't offering any dealer kick-backs on the SRT8 (not sure if the SEs or RT get one either). I got them down to $40,395 ($43k & change with taxes) That's $37.5 plus gas guzzler ($1300) and additional charge for manual tranny ($695) and fees ($900 - destination charge, tag, title). I nearly got them down to what they paid for the car because most people would over look the car because it doesn't have every possible option so it was seen as one of the more difficult cars to move. I didn't want the stripe kit (a friend paints cars and will be painting mine on and clearing over it); the Kicker system is nice but I can get way better in the after market and pay less; and I'd rather have a removable NAV I can take with me.