Dodge has upped the price of the SEs since they first came out by about $500 on the msrp and $100 or so on the destination charge so they cost about $22,600 now. Also since it's the absolute base with no options you probably won't be able to get off more than $1,000. I still would not pay msrp or over. One of the dealers near me is selling them for $500 off which is probably the best you'll get up front. Another dealer wanted msrp and I said I would take one for $500 off, he said I'd never find one for under msrp. . . yeah right.