how old are you sheperd? you sound like a punk 18 or 19 yr old talkin all that smack on a message board. at first you know, i thought, just a little competition fun here, but you dont know when to shut up. as for the challenger being an old mans car, i'm 28. hardly an "old man". what i like best about the car is the young ladies it attracts! maybe thats where this deep envy comes? i guess thats another thread tho and wont go there...ha!