alright then...lets do a little experiment.....we need a crankshaft HP dyno, so somebody take your car to the shop and yank it out...then dyno. Maybe a couple people should do that so we can get a good baseline....anybody notice that the dodge website lists a VCT and VVT 5.7L engine. Looks like the VVT comes with the 6spd. I thought they were all VCT?