If you had little car knowledge and went to their Forums... you would disbelieve it too. They connot believe a car that weighs 6000 lbs could turn those times. I have seen our weight thrown out there as a reason to not buy a Challenger on the Mustang Forums and Camaro Forums. Now the Mustang has a right to brag about their light self. But the Camaro at 300 lbs less is a slap to the face. The Hemi is the equalizer. Your times prove that this car is a good package and with a few mods you can be in the mid 12s. That is major mods for GT guys or time to go to FI. Which the General is now into on a stock basis. Wow, lets just supercharge it and leave so much more on the table. I do like Dodge for keeping it NA and letting the tuners and individuals make that choice.