Holy crap! That's far, far worse than the Challenger's initial problems. Oh ... speaking of Camaros, I've now seen two -- and on the same day, about two hours apart. (It took months and months before I saw two Challengers on the same day.) My impression: Had the Challenger not been resurrected and only the Camaro came out, I would have gotten another Mustang. I REALLY don't like the grille of the Camaro. The rest of the car is OK, but that grille absolutely kills it for me.