I believe we all see the point--there was a time not long ago when some kids brought their 4cyl rice burners to our shows--and we laughed--have you heard of NOPI shows? I believe clubs who put on shows should take the movement of NEW MUSCLE seriously so we can help their membership or a new and seperate type of show or club will evolve.Most of us new Challenger owners have paid our dues--in every way--to the old muscle class.Cfan