ORIGINAL: lear4406
I got in on this discussion kind of late... but. I see too many comparisons of Japanese 4 and 6 cylinders engines to american V-8s. The comparison is flawed due to the fact that the Japanese cars are Turboed. If you have to compare it to a V-8, then at least use a supercharged Cobra. Pressure to pressure comparison. N/A to N/A. As soon as a car is put under pressure its volumetric efficiency will increase quite substantually. Add the light weight and now you are comparing apples to oranges. The 4 and 6 cylinders are not as fast or quick when you give the V-8 the same power builders. The new HEMIs are almost able to hold their own without the help of a turbo or a supercharger. But add on one of these power boosters and you have a car in a very small minority. So to be fair please use a comparison that is more apples to apples. Don't pick the best of the Japanese cars and then pick a run of the mill American car just because its a heavy V-8. I have respect for both and I own both. 1970 GTX 440-6 and a 1988 Conquest TSI. Also 1971 340-4 Challenger and a 1991 Stealth R/T. The supercharged Cobra is one awsome beast, as well a Turboed Supra is too. And if we go to the top of the 1/4 mile shootouts they will use the best horsepower plant they can find and it is the mighty HEMI under a ton of pressure. Thanks for listening to my opinion, this is just how I see it. Randy.
while i agree that we are comparing two very different types of vehicles, i dont think that you can classify the cars by power adder, but more by intended class. the cobra, supra, and challenger are all meant to be performance vehicles...so whether its an NA 6.1, or a TT 3.0, i think that these cars are fair basis for comparison. it isnt like dodge doesnt have the option to use forced induction liek ford does....but dodge can figure out how to make power without a blower...
here is an example..on MF, one of the big rivalries is the 99-04 GTs and the srt4 neons. same class based on body style or engine? not at all...same class based on price and performance? 100%.