RT or SRT
 

Definately RT

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well RT use to mean something but I guess SRT replaced that, so what good is the RT?? It sounds like a step down model now, but I guess as long as it has a HEMI it can still be called an RT

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i guess the top of the line would be an srt8 so ill take one of those.Gotta tell ya tho that im almost 6'-7" tall so leg and head room for me will definately play into the equation here.Hope they kept us big guys in mind when they designed it.[&:]

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The SRT would have to be the top performance line and you'd expect the best like the bigger Hrmi and 6sp MT and of course the bulge hood and all. It'll be intersting if they will bring back the old colors too, I'd likie mine in Plum Crazy or Sublime. And from the looks of the pics it seems to have enough head room if you put the seat all the way back and all, but that remains to be seen. I think it'll be ok tho.

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Decisions, decisions..........I love em both! [8D]

However, since this will be a daily driver for me, the gas consumption will be of importance......especially in Canada where we pay substantially more for gasoline.

Here are the fuel economy EPA figures downloaded from the Canadian dodge website:
http://www.dodge.com/charger/power.html

The famed 5.7-liter HEMI V8 engine with Multiple Displacement System (MDS) on Charger R/T and Daytona R/T delivers the goods, featuring a deep-skirt cast-iron block with cross-bolted main bearing caps and aluminum alloy heads with legendary hemispherical combustion chambers.

Power: 350 horsepower at 5,000 rpm (340 on R/T)
Torque: 390 lb-ft at 4,000 rpm
Fuel economy: 17 mpg city/25 mpg highway†


Behold our most powerful engine ever: the big-bore SRT-engineered 6.1-liter SRT HEMI V8. A mix of modern technology and good old-fashioned hot rod engineering enables this beast to churn out a fearsome 425 horsepower and 420 lb-ft of torque. That's more power per liter than the legendary 426 Street HEMI that reigned supreme in the 1960s and 1970s.

Power: 425 horsepower at 6,200 rpm
Torque: 420 lb-ft at 4,800 rpm
Fuel economy: 14 mpg city/20 mpg highway‡


As you can see, the city mileage is 3 mpg less and the highway mileage is 5 mpg less.

It's gonna be R/T all the way. [:@]

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Perhaps the manual will help to improve the fuel economy on the 6.1L. The short gearing is my theory on why the HEMIs get such awful fuel mileage. Though they do get better fuel mileage in real life than many others that get higher EPA ratings.

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I agree totaly im not quite as tall as you, but i still have trouble getting in and out of most cars (so I drive a Ram 2500)

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blue angel thank you for posting what you know about the hemi's and the rt/srt you just showed me alot that i didn't know before.

Just wanted to say thanks.

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I dont really care what they call it. Its still got the hemi in it so it could still use the name Rt in my eyes but the new thing is SRT so I think for the newer people that dont know the difference between RT etc... they will just use SRT now.

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Probably an SRT8. Not a must, but leaning that way.

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I will end up buying the SRT but wish they had just used R/T. The whole car is such a great retro deal, but now with a new monicher?? You'll notice in the concept they always used R/T even though they said it would be a SRT drivetrain.

So be it...

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SRT for me. I know the mileage is atrocious, but 425HP to start is wonderful. So, I figure if I drive the Challenger to work 3 days a week and take mass transit two days a week, that averages out to 30 MPG, right? Yes?:D

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Dodgebrothers....too bad they couldn't to your point place a superscripted small "S" to the left so that it gave the proper appearance to the retro homage, but people could see you had the more potent offering upon closer inspection.

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I agree that Dodge should have only an R/T model. In the 1970s, an R/T could be a 340, 383, 440, 400 six-pack or a 426. The only reason that we have an SRT model is because Dodge has invested big $$$ to establish this top performance line in the minds of consumers.

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I was disappointed by that one as well. In my opinion I think they should have revived the T/A nameplate for what will be the R/T as it is a 345 cubic inch engine (5 cubes up from the 340), and used the R/T on the 6.1L as it produces as much hp as the top Challenger R/T did back in the day, and reserved the SRT badge for a higher performance engine.

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Well shoot. Miz-well say SRT, I ordered one.

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Ya, never know what derivative they can up with over the next few years. We might be surprised. Special editions etc..

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Well, I just wish they would just stick with one of those because I get tired of them constantly watering down their badges. The ES badge used to be the top of the line in recent history. The R/T badge used to be rare and equal something than was industry leading. The SRT badge currently holds that status, I just wish they would stick with one and keep it as the best in the industry.

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Basic economics for me for this decision: I don't make bucko bucks so I have to get an RT. :D

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That may end up determining which model I get in the end as well, though I'm trying to see if I can't afford an SRT.

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I want the biggest, meanest, baddest, and fastest, huh...........I can afford........I guess that means an R/T for me. :D

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LOL! Well the budget does come into play when your not rich or impractical enough not to care.

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the 5.7 hemi that was in my rumblebee was a thirsty son-of-a-gun! But as someone said it may be to do with the low gearing!
I would love to be able to afford the SRT but if i could i would maybe like to replace the front grill with an all black item and have a set of vintage red R/T badges on there for a bit of nostalgia ;)

I think for everyday purposes including a bit of fun up at the local strip the R/T is quite a hard package to beat. Sure the 6.1 has more poke and is "the top line model" but the performance of the 5.7 is more than enough for me to cruise around and enjoy whilst still being a little bit more economical

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Yep. The R/T looks better and better. Especially, when you consider some more relatively innocuous mods to glean a little more mean out it. My dilemma is this is the first and last time I'm going to do this, do I want to go off half cocked or get what I can get?

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Rumblebee? So you had a Ram? A truck is going to get lower fuel economy than a car so that isn't surprising plus I believe that was before they started offering MDS in the Ram. The R/T package is going to be a very tempting offer, especially if they still offer the lifetime warranty. The real advantage for an SRT is for collector's sake. A 440 powered Challenger was practically as fast as a 426 Hemi version was, in everyday life for the average person a 440 would be a better choice, a 440 was cheaper than a 426, but the 426 Hemi versions are more a collectors item because they are more rare.

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SRT for me and if they come out with a 6.5 that will be the one for me. Is it true they are going to stop making the viper?

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Hey, yeah my daily job is in Marine sales. I run a dealership that specialises in powerboats and motoryachts and a lot of the brands i deal with are american companies. I got the Ram Rumblebee as a promotional vehicle and also as a part time workhorse to tow some of the bigger motorboats. Is MDS the system that switches displacement for economy? I believe you are correct, it certainly didnt have this ;) but it certainly felt powerful! I can only imagine the feeling of that engine with MORE power in a lighter car! The R/T is going to rock :)

oh and i speak in past tense relating to the ram as one of my mechanics introduced it to a lamp post [:o]:(

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Yeah, Bud. MDS shuts down half of the cylinders when the engine is not at a percieved load (when cruising /maintaining a steady speed).
Our 5.7L with MDS in my wife's Charger is rated at 340 HP, but still manages to average 25.4 mpg on long trips. That's on 87 octane, not premium fuel - another advantage/cost savings.

If you "tune" the 5.7L with a chip, or add a supercharger, you'll be feeding it 91 octane.

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I know this has noghting to do with what we are taling about but im not all that good with computers .I was just woundering how many of us have orignal mopars .Challengers or cudas and such .I didnt know how to post a new topic so maybe someone can post it . I would love to know what everyones driveing .

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I've been thinking SRT 6 speed all along, but I must admit the stout R/T package is quite impressive. The other thing that has been giving me some pause is that I think one will have a bit more flexibility on how you outfit your Challenger if an R/T vs. SRT. The SRT packages have always been pretty tight choices. Hey, It is just great to have this problem :D

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I'll have to admit I like the R/T. With the bump up to 375 HP for the 6-speed. I really feel this is a good package. With a few bolt ons I could equal the SRT-8 in pony power. But not the total package... just HP. I like the hood with no stripes and it just screams my name. I really think I'll get the R/T unless they bump the SRT-8 up in power. A black R/T to go with my 71 R/T. A ying/yang kind of thang.( Sorry it just rhymed):D. I am really impressed with the forethought Dodge has put into the Challenger offerings. But I'm not ruling out an SRT-8 and my son is thinking hard about trading his Daytona in for a new 2009 SRT-8 Challenger 6-speed.;)

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The only thing I regret is if the srt is offered in a 6.4 in 09, a few more ponies. I like the auto you can always modify the valve body to make it shift a little harder if you need to.. Once I get behind the wheel it will probably satisfy me. If not maybe an air induction system, long tube headers and upgraded exhaust shouldn have her purring just fine.

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I'm down with the R/T (unless i get a good deal on an SRT which is not likely to happen). The R/T seems more like a blank canvas to me, plus Mopar already has optional wheels, a T/A hood, different rear spoiler and other goodies to go along. You can spend a little less & personalize it for not much more. AAAAAHHHH, Hot Rodding!

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Love the looks of the SRT, pocketbook is screaming trying to pry it open far enought to get the cash. Guess an RT model, but like others have a few more $$$ right off to customize it to my feeling. So for economy's sake I'll do an RT. Now for the color choice.................................

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I have been thinking SRT8 all along and I am still trying desperately to hold on to that feeling, but alas, my pocket book too has a hard time coughing up 45K. THe R/T will probably come in around 39K with all the fix'ins, so aside from the interior detailing and the extra braking/suspension/etc - I think I have to give the R/T real consideration.

As with everyone else, if I do not get the color I want however - this is all for not. I will not spend 35+K for a color I do not really like. There is more to any car than just the power plant, the whole package has to work together. I am hoping Chrysler will figure this out sooner rather than later. In a way I think they have, the RT seems to be the most popluar among forums I am reading - it is almost like they are quietly trying to dissuade people from buying SRT8's. What do you think? Some CAFE thing?? Dun'kno

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Actually, I think it all about value. You get a good HP rating with the 5.7L MDS and VCT so you have good fuel economy all at a good price.

Good value is hard to beat.

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well said

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Romeo Tango.

As stated, the RT is a blank canvas, and that is suuuuuper appealing.

Also, in regards to fuel economy....putting premium in the SRTFuelDestroyer would be at least a weekly beatdown on the wallet and the marriage. Seriously, though, the mileage ratings don't even account for the differentiation in fuel cost from regular to premium.

The RT is a pretty darn good value (MSRP pending). Ripe for customizing (not gangsterizing.) I wouldn't dream of customizing an SRT8, it just seems wrong. Immediate disqualifier.

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Looks like the RT 5.7L is ripe for Saleen to customize for more HP at this point.