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Lost personality
Hi there guys, Well I just visited www.dodge.com and went to the 2009 Challenger page, firstly I know its hot, fast and fabulous otherwise I didn’t visited the website but there are few things that I didn’t like actually..and these things are about the SE, R/T model similarities.
In my opinion I found that Dodge did not give the R/T model enough exterior personality and I guess we all know what R/T means, check it yourself what the SE model has, it has a front spoiler and the aggressive looking hood scoops…and why is that!! [sm=insomnia.gif] What difference does the R/T model have from the SE model? Just the wheels and the gas cap!! This is really bad for the R/T guys…[sm=smiley21.gif] I know they made all this for some marketing and business things but the good old days had something far more well about car model personality. Thanks |
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Yeah I would have thought the exterior may have been a little different, maybe a stripe package as well. The front "splitter" if you will, may also be for cooling, as the air gets directed into the grille. Just a thought about the engineers. I doubt a salseman came up with that idea of all the same. Most would just get the most cost effective model. We'll have to see what happens. I know the Mustangs are very similar and items like the driving light grille can easily be installed. (I work for FOrd and have had to do one, or two). In the end I think people will purchase what they can, and when they can. Personally I loved the SRT8, but not the $40K. The R/T looks the part w/o th stripes, so for me that is what I will lean to. Kids woth little monet will gravitate toward the SE, just like the V6 stangs. Although now we can REALLY prsonalize them to make them "OUR OWN"!!!!!
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Cooper --- Let's not forget the R/T comes with a Hemi motor and a six-speed. That is a HUGE difference...
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Yeah, I'm sure you'll be able to hear and see the difference at the light!
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ORIGINAL: DamnSkippy Yeah, I'm sure you'll be able to hear and see the difference at the light! ;) |
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ORIGINAL: Cooper Hi there guys, Well I just visited www.dodge.com and went to the 2009 Challenger page, firstly I know its hot, fast and fabulous otherwise I didn’t visited the website but there are few things that I didn’t like actually..and these things are about the SE, R/T model similarities. In my opinion I found that Dodge did not give the R/T model enough exterior personality and I guess we all know what R/T means, check it yourself what the SE model has, it has a front spoiler and the aggressive looking hood scoops…and why is that!! [sm=insomnia.gif] What difference does the R/T model have from the SE model? Just the wheels and the gas cap!! This is really bad for the R/T guys…[sm=smiley21.gif] I know they made all this for some marketing and business things but the good old days had something far more well about car model personality. Thanks |
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ORIGINAL: lew showrank Cooper --- Let's not forget the R/T comes with a Hemi motor and a six-speed. That is a HUGE difference... |
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Thanks Jeremiah, actually am talking about the exterior look not the mechanical things, and yeah thanks again for the pictures in the pdf it helped me make sure that Dodge made some sort of a mistake, to me that is...
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I understand what you mean but look at it this way, if you get one it will be like a blank canvas.
You can do a total retro theme by copying the stripe packages from the early 70's, it looks like Mopar is going to have some pretty cool accessories (T/A style hood), heck they even did the hardest part - reproduce the flip style "FUEL" door. From what i understand, there is a new "shaker" style hood in the works like on the Mach 1 Mustang a few years back. The only thing they really left out was a vinyl top option - but i don't think that would go over well nowadays!:) If your not into the retro thing, you can always leave it stock looking and mod the hell out of the powertrain - sleeper. Or do what is done alot now, big wheels & tires, sound system, stripper girl decal on back window,(just kidding). I like it better this way so when i get mine, i don't have to pay for some stuff i'd otherwise change from the factory, but i'm a pretty plain guy anyway. |
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I think it's cool that they made the SE so good looking. Does not have the spoiler, but that's pretty much a coinflip anyway. I kinda like it without. This in no way changes my intention of getting the R/T. If you are getting the R/T, you are doing it for the V8. If you want an awesome looking car with a V6, the SE is a solid choice.
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ORIGINAL: anthem SS I understand what you mean but look at it this way, if you get one it will be like a blank canvas. You can do a total retro theme by copying the stripe packages from the early 70's, it looks like Mopar is going to have some pretty cool accessories (T/A style hood), heck they even did the hardest part - reproduce the flip style "FUEL" door. From what i understand, there is a new "shaker" style hood in the works like on the Mach 1 Mustang a few years back. The only thing they really left out was a vinyl top option - but i don't think that would go over well nowadays!:) If your not into the retro thing, you can always leave it stock looking and mod the hell out of the powertrain - sleeper. Or do what is done alot now, big wheels & tires, sound system, stripper girl decal on back window,(just kidding). I like it better this way so when i get mine, i don't have to pay for some stuff i'd otherwise change from the factory, but i'm a pretty plain guy anyway. Thanks, thats the best reply ;) |
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I have to echo Thor77, I say kudos to Dodge for making an attractive looking car for someone who either can't afford or doesn't choose to afford a beast w/ serious growl but still wants attractive sheet metal. The beauty is that all of it allows for so much individualism.
Anthem has a great point too, it represents a blank canvas. I could see the tuner crowd adopting this, and figuring out how to make it (a 6) faster and faster w/ mods etc. to where it can give a run to R/Ts w/ strategically placed budget upgrades. Again, my only beef w/ Dodge, is why not figure out how to mate a stick w/ the base model. I think they're losing sales, and that's just sad. |
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I agree with the statement... they need a manual for the 6. R/T and SRT should not have all the fun. And the power to the rear wheels will increase, and thats a plus for the 0-60 and 1/4 mile times. 0-60 being more important for street use:D
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i agree with lear4406, if they only offered a auto trans, they would really lose performance, seeing as how automatic's take more power out than the manuals do.
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+1 on a stick for the V6ers. It could be a 5 speed box to save cost. Any car with any sort of enthusiast leanings should have a stick available.
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This was something that concerns me. The danger of making the SE too similar to the R/T and SRT models in the looks is it will cheapen the feel of the upper models. They should probably offer the crossehair grille on the V6 models, feature a different hood, and probably drop the spoiler making that a V8 model only feature. Give the SE less body cladding and maintain the cladding on the R/T and SRT versions. I also agree that not having a manual on the V6 is a mistake.
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