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Let's hope it is just a rumor. I too am planning on getting a 6 speed. If there is something too it though, we will be hearing more about it pretty soon, like in a matter of weeks. Chrysler reported having issues with or about the 6 speed earlier, and that is why it was not in the '08.
If they have worked out the kinks, then this rumor will die quickly. Like I said, I am planning on it.

Trust me I'm not trying to stir stuff up, Just what I heard from a gent who orders cars for fleets, state police, business owners. THe people with the $$$$$. So because of that he sold 2 Srt8s already, and has had a "decent" handle on some of the rumors. THis is what he had heard. And like all rumors it can be subject to change. I just wanted to let people know what may/can happen. Sorry for stirring up stuff, that was not my intention.

The six speed that is going to be used is being sourced from the Viper with only the necessary changes to adapt it to the Challenger body. The Viper puts out 600hp and 560lb-ft of torque so the statement that the trans won't handle it is incorrect. As far as I know there is no change on plans and the stick is to appear this Fall. Could there be a delay? Anything is possible, but if so it won't be over whether the trans has the capacity to deal with the power. Hopefully there will be some clearer answers by/after model changeover time(first 2 weeks of July).

I think it would be tough to substantiate this as one could apply this logic to the 'Vette, the Viper, the Shelby GT 500 etc I mean all of them in manual trans can break loose the tires very easily. Heck I have a 2006 Avalanche with a 8.1 and auto trans and I can turn over the tires any time I please. Guess this means they will recall the auto? May be go to a CVT?

After thinking on this I will add that it must be a rumor. In other words... not true. It is after all a Viper unit and tested very thoughly. Its weight and the fact of traction control leaves me little doubt that it would have issues with traction. I'd say a 6-speed is in the future for a 2009 SRT-8 Challenger with no hesitation, the engineers at Dodge are some of the best and they would figure this out, no problem:) So lets look forward to shifting gears in our 6.1s and leaving traces of goodyear rubber like bread crumbs to those who are behind us. Like they said in Gumball Ralley " Whats behind me is not important":D

Spoke with my cousin and he said they HaD a suspension issue, but, to the best of his knowledge it is all in the past. Not sure why this is resurfacing. Right now it looks like the 2009 R/T and SRT's will have a stick for those who want them. He thinks rumors and news are getting intermingled. There are actually few trueths about the 2009 within the hallow'ed halls of his realm. Cerebus is putting the gag on not only this car but the company. In some ways, he is relying on hear-say before he can verify what is. Only then, he says, does he know where the pulse of the people are. He says the company is leaking more info to the bogs than they are internally. Of course he thinks we are all silly enthusiast, jumping at everything that moves in the bushes, like a bunch of drunken hunters. He says (sic thinks), Chrysler in so doing this, (mixing trueth with near trueth, old news with recent news) keeps the demand for information and product high. He does not endorse or agree with it, but said it is what it is. (I would say he is basically disgusted with the current state of affairs... But I guess you get that way if you work for a company over 35 years (and get a new car every three or so months).

99% certain, put this one to rest. Q. E. D.

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Not necessarily agreeing here, but I heard something similar. Seems the 6 speed breaks the tires loose too easily on the SRT8 and there is an IIHS requirement they have to meet. I understand they are still testing this configuration. I am hoping to hear more news on this too. I have my cousin pinned against a wall until he squeals like a pig. (trying to think of the movie that line came from .... Oh yeah, "Deliverance") Let me change that. I'll apply pressure until he coughs up the truth. Naw, too graphic. Hmm, how about this. I will share what I learn as soon as I am able.

In case anyone was wondering about IIHS, I looked it up. It stands for the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety. It is an independent, nonprofit, scientific, and educational organization dedicated to reducing the losses — deaths, injuries, and property damage — from crashes on the nation's highways. It rates and publishes insurance loss results by vehicle make and model.

IIHS is not truly independent or non-profit. They are funded only by the insurance companites, and their mission is to reduce losses (claims) that would affect the profit of insurance companies. I'm pretty cynical about the insurance industry, so I regard the IIHS with suspicion, but I'll admit they do some good work on crash testing. This is not meant to start a debate about the insurance industry, pro and con, only to note that the IIHS is the research arm of the insurance industry.

Thor77,

No problem, I was wrong to assert the IIHS agency. I had had this conversation with my cousin months and months ago and he mentioned several governing authorities (internal as well) that dictate acceptance. Can I use age as an exuse? I get confused easily and writing quickly and thinking less quickly leads to mis-information. Please accept my unreserved apology. [sm=boohoo.gif]

My understanding, and this is at least third hand, the fact was an issue with the (stick) car breaking loose too easily. My understanding, again, was more with using the anti-spin technology (?and suspension?) as with the automatic. They had to change the recipe. It was not the tires as was mentioned here, indicating a engine transfer or transmission issue.

No worries!:) Sorry if I seemed like I was jumping on your case.