cancelled my rt classic order today
 

just wanted you guys to know that i cancelled my order today on the rt classic i placed the order over 3 months ago it's still in status d my salesman said it might be 2 more months so i got my deposit back .i can't or will not wate 5 months or longer for a car.i might want to kick my butt later but thats something i'll have to deal with later.i love all muscle cars .so see you guys later take care

Pearson Dodge (Richmond VA) has a Blue R/T Classic on their lot, if you're still interested.

Sorry to hear that rickerda,I don,t know what there problem is.You ordered right when they started to exclusively build the Classics ,so it should have been built and delivered it a short amount of time.It looks like we might have to settle for the Camaro.The C amaro sounds like it will be a great car,but the Challenger just looks so much badder.

I hate that you have'nt recieved your car yet and its full swing into car season. I know where your coming from and wish you all the best in finding a car that you want... whether a Dodge, Chevy or Ford. Its the pony wars 2 and you guys should be in the thick of things. Good luck.

Totally understandable. But no way it should take two months or more to get your deposit back. If you paid by credit card, do a charge-back. These dealers are scumbags.

I too was excited about another pony war.But with the condition of Chrysler and G.M.,the war may never come to be.The Camaro might not even be allowed to be kept in production,and the Challenger may meet the same fate from the federal scumbags.Remember,to get the cash,they got to show they are investing in small fuel sippers,not tire shredders.I am worried that they will stop muscle production and focus on Fiats.

Ordered my B5-Blue Classic 6-spd on March 2...delivery for May...No one will guarantee if the order will be ever be built, so I went with the sure thing.
I cancelled my R/T Classic order too - took a loaded R/T 6-spd in black that was on the dealers lot. The dealer really worked with me for a very good deal on the car.
I hated buying under these conditions - but no disappointments with this car.
She is now my " Black Pearl".
Right now...Very glad to have the chance to get an R/T 6-spd Challenger.
The future for the Charger, 300, & Challenger is not looking very good.

I'm just wondering what kind of deals the dealerships are willing to work, since "the announcement".
Lately, I've found several that are advertising Challengers at invoice, or within a hundred or so.

That really stumps me blk pearl,cause if your car was ordered way back in March for May delivery,it should already been down the line.Or at least be goin thru it.Not even a build in progress at that late in the order phase completely dumbfounds me.

Ridge Runner - The order status had been changed (I do not remember the letter code the order was under B?) The dealer had a scheduled delivery for the month of May for (1) Challenger. Mine was the only one ordered & due "in". Dealer stated that "the region" was only allocated for 8 units (challengers) in May & they were to receive one of the eight. The "Classics" ordered Jan./Feb. were just being delivered mid April so why the surprise that a March order would show in May. (Even if built/shipped the courts have frozen all assets (property) of Chrysler - the cars are not ours until delivered...just not happening any time soon & no one will guarantee it ever will.)
The dealer was fair with R/T 6-spd on the lot...so I went with the sure thing...& very happy I had the chance to do it. The car is more than I ever expected.

I sat on mine for six months and never got the thing so I know how everyone feels. It wasn't the classic which is even worse. Now I have tree sap on it and that's driving me crazy. Trying to figure out how to get it off since it's all over the car. If it's not the order placed six months ago, it's the tree sap.

And a question, why the hell do people come here, say they have sold or are selling a car, cancelled an order, etc and then never come back again? Is there really a call for that? Stick around after you say that then fine, but hit and run, what's the point?

The only remote danger Camaro is in will come if the CAW (Canadian Auto Workers) fails to reach an agreement with GM-Canada as demanded by the Canadian Federal and Quebec governments. If they can not reach an agreement, then GM will liquidate their Canadian operations, which includes the Oshawa plant that makes Camaro (as well as Impala and Lacrosse).

Saying the Dodge Challenger is in trouble because of "Federal Scumbags" is not just wrong, but also pretty stupid. Here's why.

First, the Automotive Task Force... if you actually read their report... is in no way limiting, dictating, or restricting the availability of performance cars or sports coupes.

Second, Chrysler (and GM) got to where they were today by the business choices they made, not by the gun of a Federal Task Force. Sure, Daimler basically raped Chrysler's cash and early decade product lineup, then Cerberus picked up Chrysler with the intent of getting Chrysler Financial and spinning off the rest to someone else. Sure, GM simply swept their problems under the rug until they had a debt 60 times their market value. But in both instances, the blame begins and lies at the doorsteps of Chrysler and GM.

Third, the only reason why GM and Chrysler had to go to the feds in the 1st place is because no other institution would lend to them. As with any lender, they are going to want to ensure that they're going to get their money back, and the same practices (and people) that put the company into the ground aren't continuing business as usual, and are going to apply stipulations that can either be accepted or not. If not, then they don't get the cash.

Forth, and most important... and forgotten...
IT'S THE PUBLIC THAT DETERMINES SUCCESS OR FAILURE OF A VEHICLE!

A vehicle that makes money and meets regulations gets to continue, one that doesn't won't. Challenger is in no regulatory danger whatsoever. Even the Hemi V8 gets similar if not better fuel economy as Infiniti's 3.7 V6. CAFE is based on averages of an entire car company's sales. The more Calibers, Avengers, or Sebrings Chrysler sells, the more SRT8 Challengers, SRT8 Chargers, and SRT8 300 can be sold. Fuel economy standards won't threaten the Challenger till the end of next decade. But what DOES threaten Challenger is the same that killed the Magnum.... SALES!

Even if you go back to end of the last muscle car era, it was sales more than anything else that killed the muscle car. The insurence industry slapped a surcharge on all "performance" cars in 1970. Sales plunged like a ton of bricks. By the time lead was removed from gasoline in '72, ending high compression engines, muscle cars were already dead on the sales front. Emissions came in 1973, the fuel crisis in late '73-74, and CAFE kicked in starting in 1977. Muscle cars were long gone well before any of those points.


As pointed out, Challenger sales aren't what was initially projected. That's mainly because of the economy, everyone's hurting. However, the other side of that coin is that compared with other Chrysler cars, the Challenger is actually doing very well. Also, the Dodge Challenger was originally slated for just a 3 year lifespan, it's business case built much along the same lines as the GTO/Monaro was: limited run, sedan based, coupe. I don't know where that 60,000 figure came from, but I recall being told 30-45K by Jason Vines who was Chrysler's media rep.

As a strong selling car and a car that is still very new, Challenger is in no danger until at least the Brampton plant is redone to start making the revised LX cars, and even then it may continue for some time afterwards... if the public keeps buying them, making it worthwhile.

Sergio Marchionne is no dummy. He did a job on GM, walking away with a mountan of money just to let them out of their merger. He's trying to assemble what would turn out to be the world's 2nd largest car company if he pulls in Opel next. He definately isn't going to be able to do that by killing off Opel and Chrysler, and sell nothing but Fiats.

Fiat owns Alfa Romeo, Maseratti, Lancia, and Ferrari.

Fiat becomes a majority owner of Chrysler only when federal loans are repaid, upon which, the feds will pull out.

I wouldn't worry about Fiat killing off any LX cars just yet if the demand (and the money) is still there, and Chrysler still meets CAFE (a certainty if Chrysler can get some decent mid-sized and small cars).

But expect the Sebring & Avenger to be replaced by Fiat based vehicles... and I don't exactly see that as a bad thing.

Even if you go back to end of the last muscle car era, it was sales more than anything else that killed the muscle car.

So true-Don't you think if Plymouth could have sold 20,000 hemi Cuda Convertibles instead of 12 they would have made every one?

I believe it all starts with financial hardship of sorts. High insurance rates (ala 70s) and the price of fuel. To say that the gov. will not interfear is not a proven point. At least with this new Government. So as I have been saying... lets wait it out and then we will see. I hope you guys are right.

Were you totally set on the Classic? Just go buy an R/T or SRT8, you won't be disappointed believe me. Most 08 owners never drove or sat in one and we ordered the car and waited 6-7 months for delivery. I was one of them and believe me, I have not been disappointed in any way, shape, or form. It is better than I ever anticipated and I don't regret buying this vehicle for one second. Go buy a Challenger, mod it and make it your own or keep it stock, either way, you won't be disappointed.

Here here rrunner!!! I never imagined in my life that I would have bought a car sight unseen, other than the concept and then production model in magazines, and here of course. The last six months, wow, wow, wow, all pure joy with The Grin being as wide as ever. This is THE CAR, no doubt about it.

just an excuse, buyers remorse set in

I'm with Rr and kramtrah the RT is THE BALLS! If you absolutley don't like the car after driving it you need to move to the Camaro forums LOL Just kidding of course. But it is 1 thing= fast, ok comfy, ok it handles well, ok gets tons of looks, alright it looks amazing you get the point! Will you get smoked by a SS Camaro? probably but who cares! It will make a more lasting impression I'm sure. I just saw a new Silver Camaro on the road yesterday and I just didn't react like I STILL do when I see a new Chally I think that says alot!

I agree. I still can't get over the fact that when I pull into Dodge dealers that they still stare at the car like they haven't seen it yet. They say that it's because the color I have. They see orange and black all the time with some silver and torred, but not inferno red.

I've been driving my white R/T since Saturday.
I can't remember the last time I saw so many people just turn and stare.
I drove past the local Chevy dealer, who was doing a big "Camaro introduction" event, with the tent and everything.
I thought really hard about pulling in and parking next to the pedistal, just to see what kind of a reaction I might get. (I thought better of it, though. I buy my GM parts there, and they have been decent to me. No sense in pizzing them off. :D )

You might be surprised. They could have asked you to pull closer like they did me.

Not cancelling my RT Classic order yet
 

I too am upset over not getting my car yet, I ordered mine November 6, 2008 for a 2009 model. I was told it was available to order when in fact it was not. So the dealer got my $5000.00 deposit back in November and did not actually order my car until January 26, 2009 it has been in D status for months until the announcement a couple weeks ago now it is in BG status. I believe the dealer lied about when the order could be placed to get the deposit to show profit for the month. I am seeing other cars same color, options etc as mine ordered in February and the cars have been delivered, this too is very upsetting. At least the dealer I ordered from is not one on the chopping block or I would have called Chrysler and changed the order to have it sent to another dealer. So for now I will wait, I was told this is going to be a limited edition and won't be produced after the 2009 model by the sales manager at my dealer.

floobs, I feel for you, but if I were you I would begin a search for what you want because there is no guarantee you will get your car.

Sounds like they pulled a fast one on you just to get your deposit, so I would not trust them to tell you the truth. You may or you may not, and the sales manager doesn't know any more than you and I. JMHO

By chance does it have a six speed in it? I don't know if one end is communicating with the other, but when I ordered mine in Oct and waited six months for nothing to show up, I spoke with Chrysler and they said that there was something wrong with the order that was placed. I talked with the dealer and they said that there was nothing wrong with it, that it was just taking a while. I'm not sure which one to believe on that one since it sat in BG status, I think, the entire time it was on order. I'm leaning towards Chrysler. I would say check with them, but you know what they would say at this point with what's going on.

Harmon I was going to get a B5 blue classic, but now that it's Fiat, that ain't happening.

My dad's B5 classic order was placed in Jan/Feb I think, and it's finally in the shipping process. Over the last weekend, we heard it was in MI waiting for a driver to deliver it to the dealership.

I must be one of the lucky ones. I ordered my Silver R/T J-package with 6-speed on February 26, 2009, right before the Employee Pricing came to an end. I waited for (what seemed like an excrutiating) 8-weeks (dealer quoted 4-10 weeks from date of order). I took delivery on April 23, 2009, and I haven't been able to remove the grin from my face :D.
Checking online for dealer inventories, they show less than 20 total Challengers (all models) within a 150 radius of Central PA. If you're impatient and unsure about an order, grab one while the gettin' is good.

I read on the Chrysler page yesterday that the Challenger is slated to be built in 2010 and 2011 still. I also read the brampton plant should be online this month. I hope to once again order the exact B5 Classic that i want from another Dodge dealer in my area. My first attempt was with a dealer that was severed. Does anyone have conflicting data?

Nevermind I read another thread here that confirmed what I read. No my hopes are up again about having a new ride this summer and fall. Excited like a kid knowing xmas is coming.

my local dodge dealer is also closing they were not on the inital list but i just heard a few days ago they will be closing down Dartmouth Dodge in Dartmouth, MA

All Plants Open by 6/29/09
 

:) My Dealer told me that all plants should be online by 6/29 and that challengers will be shipping and being built by that date the latest. Still waitiing on my B5 6 speed. Built and in J status forever. :rolleyes:
Wishing Waiting Hoping !!!!!! Want to enjoy it for the balance of summer at least.

My dad just took delivery today 6/16 on his classic challenger. He's extemely excited about it, I can't wait to see it in person. I assume all others will be moving forward on their ordering status.