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B00SS 03-08-2006 05:24 PM

Challenger: bad idea?
 
If in fact, the Challenger does become a 6.1L only, 6 speed only, 10,000 copy, $40,000, limited production car, has DCX blown it? After all the initial enthusiasm, would you be disappointed or glad to have one of the few?

sambo77 03-08-2006 05:56 PM

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ORIGINAL: B00SS

If in fact, the Challenger does become a 6.1L only, 6 speed only, 10,000 copy, $40,000, limited production car, has DCX blown it? After all the initial enthusiasm, would you be disappointed or glad to have one of the few?
IF Dodge does not offer a base V6 and base V8 higher volumed variants of the Challenger and builds only the limitted production 6.1 hemi optioned out 6-speed only model, THEN yes it will end up being a HUGE mistake and automotive marketing FAILURE of EPOCH proportion and STUPIDITY on Dodge's part...

HOWEVER.... IF Dodge does build the Challenger with all the above variants, higher volumed base V6, higher volumed base-5.7-V8, and the limited 6.1 Hemi high-optioned Challenger and does so keeping each variants MSRP competative with comparable variants of Ford Mustang/Mustang-GT/GT-500, ....

THEN.... H-LL YES ! ! ! ;):D:D:D

The Challenger can end up one of the most successful automotive stories of the past 50 years ! ! ! ;)

Paladin06 03-08-2006 07:08 PM

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If and I hope not, they go that route, I'll buy one as an investment not for enjoyment.

RLSH700 03-08-2006 07:49 PM

RE: Challenger: bad idea?
 


ORIGINAL: B00SS

If in fact, the Challenger does become a 6.1L only, 6 speed only, 10,000 copy, $40,000, limited production car, has DCX blown it? After all the initial enthusiasm, would you be disappointed or glad to have one of the few?
It depends how you look at it. It would be a disappointment for me personally because I would not be able to afford one. DCX would have blown a perfectly good opportunity that would have really helped them out like the minivan, PT Crusier, LX sedans, etc. The way I see it. I think if they go this route, they will end up selling all of them in no time and will change their minds and produce more of them like they did with the Diesel Liberty, they sold double what they originally thought they would sell. I think either way this car will be mass produced. It's unique.

Jeremiah 29:11 03-08-2006 09:55 PM

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At this point, it doesn't matter to me as long as they have a higher performance variant. I am too old to think of it a an investment. I want it as a fun/weekend car.
My kids may think of it as an investment but in 25 years when it becomes as classic, I don't expect to be driving with great driving skills.

I need to have fun while I can. None of us know how long we have on this earth anyway.

I do plan to take care of it so my kids can enjoy it some day.

Jeremiah 29:11

deranged 03-09-2006 01:51 AM

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Anything over $35k and I will not be able to justify it to myself and especially to my wife. I will wait for a used one or the next years production hoping for a more affordable variant of the Challenger. I just hope that if the first years production is an expensive limited production model that ends up not selling well that they don't scrap it all together saying "see there's no demand". Let's just hope they are listening to us guys on these forums since we're the prospective customers for this vehicle in the first place!

The Challenger is a VERY GOOD idea, but it has to be marketed as it was originally, as a competitor for the Mustang and Camaro and NOT a Barrett Jackson future collectible.


Do you want to make the profit on this DCX, or leave it to some investment speculators 30-40 years from now?


Are you reading this DCX?

TeeWJay426 03-09-2006 05:29 AM

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I think it would be a BIG mistake.... we don't need another Viper-type car that only the wealthier folks could afford. Even though I could probably still swing one, I'd have a hard time justifying it. I find it hard to believe that the bean counters at DCX could be that short-sighted, but they've made dumb decisions before, so I guess we'll have to wait and see what develops.....

DARK AGE 53 03-09-2006 02:29 PM

RE: Challenger: bad idea?
 


ORIGINAL: B00SS

If in fact, the Challenger does become a 6.1L only, 6 speed only, 10,000 copy, $40,000, limited production car, has DCX blown it? After all the initial enthusiasm, would you be disappointed or glad to have one of the few?

I'm looking for performance, style and price, if DCX doesn't come through on the Challenger I will go elsewhere.

Al

B00SS 03-09-2006 05:28 PM

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I'd say the concept has two out of three. Price? Somehow this keeps entering the equation. Hopefully, they are listening.

bhoch 03-09-2006 05:30 PM

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Hello.. New here.

I think it's probably a good idea if they have a few different models to choose from. That said, I don't really care as I am going to get the LARGEST Hemi in it they got. As someone that grew up in the 60's and 70's, this car gives me some pretty good memories. I can't wait till it comes out and I can find a way to get one.

6.1L Hemi = GOOD
6.4L Hemi = REALLY GOOD

Either way I'll be happy with it. BFT a car that I can care about comes out again. Mustang was/is close, but it does not do it for me.. This looks to be about as right as they can make it in todays car world!

Come-on 2007!

Racer X 03-09-2006 05:36 PM

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30-32k and I'm there. If over, I'll find a used car, maybe another GTO, or Vette.

bjones 03-17-2006 02:17 PM

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Newbie on the block

Yep I agree they need to make it under $30,000 and put a bunch on the road. I have always wanted one and now I can afford one for a reasable price.
I have already decided to buy one unless it is only being built for the elite like the vipers and prowlers.
This car can really put Mopar back in the game with americans like me. I love this car...

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Paladin06 03-17-2006 06:32 PM

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Under 30K, that will never happen.

Jeremiah 29:11 03-17-2006 06:44 PM

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I agree. Just look at the MSRP of it's brothers. Do you see anything less than $30K?

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sambo77 03-17-2006 09:29 PM

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ORIGINAL: Paladin06

Under 30K, that will never happen.
Not even for a base/stripped model with the 5.7 V8 Hemi ?????

This sounds really bad for us blue collar guys who WANT an affordable stripped V8 Challenger variant.
[:@][:o][&o]

Then Dodge will surely have TROUBLE then with this one......:eek:


TeeWJay426 03-17-2006 09:50 PM

RE: Challenger: bad idea?
 

ORIGINAL: sambo77

Not even for a base/stripped model with the 5.7 V8 Hemi ?????

This sounds really bad for us blue collar guys who WANT an affordable stripped V8 Challenger variant.
[:@][:o][&o]

Then Dodge will surely have TROUBLE then with this one......:eek:

When was the last time ANY manufacturer offered anything in a STRIPPED version? Everything on the market now has AC, power windows/door locks/seats/ etc.... the days of the bare bones Road Runners & Super Bees are long gone, I'm afraid. And when was the last time you could really order a vehicle EXACTLY the way you wanted it? Select only the options you felt you needed, and ignore everything else, without any bundled option 'packages'? Unfortunately, NO manufacturer makes those kind of vehicles anymore.... hell, I don'think you could get anything W/O A/C anymore if you wanted it...

Paladin06 03-17-2006 10:44 PM

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Just keep in mind what year it is and DCX knows what price the market will bare. I'm not saying they will be terrible expensive but, under 30K is not realistic. I honestly believe between 32 (V8) and 35K (fully loaded Hemi) they will sell like hot cakes. The market will order faster then DCX can build them and that's just the flag ship year.

Keep in mind today DCX knows that most middle to upper middle class income car owners, and you know this must be the market, want, expect and are willing to pay the 30 to 35K price range for a quality well dressed out car. Throw in the high performance and it's, well, you know the price range just think about it.

Now as for the stang remember a ford today is still a ford.

Racer X 03-18-2006 03:18 PM

RE: Challenger: bad idea?
 

Just keep in mind what year it is and DCX knows what price the market will bare. I'm not saying they will be terrible expensive but, under 30K is not realistic. I honestly believe between 32 (V8) and 35K (fully loaded Hemi) they will sell like hot cakes. The market will order faster then DCX can build them and that's just the flag ship year.

Keep in mind today DCX knows that most middle to upper middle class income car owners, and you know this must be the market, want, expect and are willing to pay the 30 to 35K price range for a quality well dressed out car. Throw in the high performance and it's, well, you know the price range just think about it.

Now as for the stang remember a ford today is still a ford.


I hate to believe it, but I think your right. Look at what the Charger is going for esp. the SRT8!!

Jeremiah 29:11 03-18-2006 06:11 PM

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Eveny my sons Mustang Premium GT with a 300HP V8 was $32K. Sure you can get it cheaper but not only the performance changes
but also the outside packaging changes significantly.



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Racer X 03-19-2006 10:18 AM

RE: Challenger: bad idea?
 


ORIGINAL: Jeremiah 29:11

Eveny my sons Mustang Premium GT with a 300HP V8 was $32K. Sure you can get it cheaper but not only the performance changes
but also the outside packaging changes significantly.



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WOW!!! I paid alot less for my GTO, brand new, not used.

1 Bad Mirada 03-19-2006 09:34 PM

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DCX needs to wake up, and make something to compete with the mustang..its dodge, not a uxury company, and they need to realize this...they need to make an "everyman's muscle car".

Jeremiah 29:11 03-19-2006 10:21 PM

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Well as you can tell from my attachment it can be from 19K to 27K it just depends on the package being bought. My son bought everything
ala leather seats and a 1KW sub.. Yours may have been bare bones.


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