Forget the Camaro
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Kevin what are you talking about ...
You better do your research on the 300 wagen aka MAGNUM 300 in Europe.
GM is in worse shape then anyone. Not that anyone is in good shape !
You better do your research on the 300 wagen aka MAGNUM 300 in Europe.
GM is in worse shape then anyone. Not that anyone is in good shape !
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ORIGINAL: Rudy61SRT8
Kevin what are you talking about ...
You better do your research on the 300 wagen aka MAGNUM 300 in Europe.
GM is in worse shape then anyone. Not that anyone is in good shape !
Kevin what are you talking about ...
You better do your research on the 300 wagen aka MAGNUM 300 in Europe.
GM is in worse shape then anyone. Not that anyone is in good shape !
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I'm not too worried about Chrysler...yet. Someone on here posted an interesting article about how Chrysler had been secretly testing electric drivetrains in production vehicles. Chrysler, to the worlds surprise, is in the race to get an electric vehicle to market by 2010. That does not hurt them.
Also, one can still lease a Chrysler, only the lease won't be underwritten by Chrysler. Dealerships can still make leases obtained through independent finance companies.
And lastly but certainly not least, the 2009 Dodge Ram 1500. Granted, the full size truck market is shrinking, but with a truck like what Dodge has to offer, they will be on top of the segment, even if it is a dwindling market segment. I have read nothing but rave reviews about the 09 Ram, and am honestly torn between a Ram and a Challenger. To those who think that is crazy, read the review on allpar, or better yet, go see one in person. It is one thoughtfully crafted, fully capable handsome truck.
Also, one can still lease a Chrysler, only the lease won't be underwritten by Chrysler. Dealerships can still make leases obtained through independent finance companies.
And lastly but certainly not least, the 2009 Dodge Ram 1500. Granted, the full size truck market is shrinking, but with a truck like what Dodge has to offer, they will be on top of the segment, even if it is a dwindling market segment. I have read nothing but rave reviews about the 09 Ram, and am honestly torn between a Ram and a Challenger. To those who think that is crazy, read the review on allpar, or better yet, go see one in person. It is one thoughtfully crafted, fully capable handsome truck.
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ORIGINAL: RUBBERBNDMAN
Ah-ha....you fell into the trap....He was born to argue. Goodluck!! LMAO
ORIGINAL: Rudy61SRT8
Kevin what are you talking about ...
You better do your research on the 300 wagen aka MAGNUM 300 in Europe.
GM is in worse shape then anyone. Not that anyone is in good shape !
Kevin what are you talking about ...
You better do your research on the 300 wagen aka MAGNUM 300 in Europe.
GM is in worse shape then anyone. Not that anyone is in good shape !
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One of the key things to keep in mind is that the drop in stock prices does not affect the real performance of a company. It really does nothing to the bottom line except perhaps in secondary issues like bond prices. Yes, GM may have to pay more interest for future bond issues, but the stock price does not affect their ability to produce or profit (much). They have to move cars. While the market certainly helps emotionally (and not realisticaly) support better "quality" cars (read: Toyota), GM will sell lots of cars. Their bang for the buck signifiaantly outweighs Toyota. I think they are a bargain at this stock price and others will also. I predict someone will make a hostile takeover bid, probably a foreign company. The price is just too low and a great bargain. My suggestion buy in heavy just after the election. It doesn't even matter who wins. They could easily screw up the Camaro, however. It is really just a Pontiac G8 with a semi-new body. They blew it with the GTO so who knows.
As far as Chrysler, guess what, they don't care except how many they are selling. The price of Challengers is very competitive with other cars in the same performance range yet look a lot better. They will do all right. They got a good deal in the first place from those German suckers so they can hang on for quite a while, even in the face of lower sales. They will not sell these valuable facilities and plants a the lowest values in stock history, they will hang on for a while.They haven't lost any stock value, they are privately owned. Just look at their marketing plan. They have never advertised the Challenger yet they are selling rapidly.
As far as Chrysler, guess what, they don't care except how many they are selling. The price of Challengers is very competitive with other cars in the same performance range yet look a lot better. They will do all right. They got a good deal in the first place from those German suckers so they can hang on for quite a while, even in the face of lower sales. They will not sell these valuable facilities and plants a the lowest values in stock history, they will hang on for a while.They haven't lost any stock value, they are privately owned. Just look at their marketing plan. They have never advertised the Challenger yet they are selling rapidly.
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I'm not too worried about Chrysler...yet.
I'm not too worried about Chrysler...yet.
And if that falls thru, Cerberus will begin talks with Nissan. Say it aint so!
Is Cerberus looking to pawn Chrysler off so soon?
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