Supercharging the new Challenger
01-30-2006, 02:57 PM
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RE: Supercharging the new Challenger
Yeah, a weight reduction would be good. What do you suggest to do to accomplish this? The only thing I can think of is cutting down on the trunk space and shortening the car some.
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01-30-2006, 05:08 PM
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RE: Supercharging the new Challenger
sorry..i mean like removing things to cut down on the weight of the car...first off, i hope that they have offer manual seats. i have power seats on the RT, and while mine work fine, its one more thing to go bad, and theyre heavy....i also hope that if the huge rims do come on the car, that they use a common bolt pattern like the 5x114.3 that is the same as the mirada and RT...that way, at the track, it will have some 15s on the rear, and big meat...
also..
weight reduction 101, as performed on my 2002 Stratus RT..
rear seat delete.
passenger seat delete.
spare tire delete.
jack and factory tools delete.
also..
weight reduction 101, as performed on my 2002 Stratus RT..
rear seat delete.
passenger seat delete.
spare tire delete.
jack and factory tools delete.
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RE: Supercharging the new Challenger
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sorry..i mean like removing things to cut down on the weight of the car...first off, i hope that they have offer manual seats. i have power seats on the RT, and while mine work fine, its one more thing to go bad, and theyre heavy....i also hope that if the huge rims do come on the car, that they use a common bolt pattern like the 5x114.3 that is the same as the mirada and RT...that way, at the track, it will have some 15s on the rear, and big meat...
also..
weight reduction 101, as performed on my 2002 Stratus RT..
rear seat delete.
passenger seat delete.
spare tire delete.
jack and factory tools delete.
sorry..i mean like removing things to cut down on the weight of the car...first off, i hope that they have offer manual seats. i have power seats on the RT, and while mine work fine, its one more thing to go bad, and theyre heavy....i also hope that if the huge rims do come on the car, that they use a common bolt pattern like the 5x114.3 that is the same as the mirada and RT...that way, at the track, it will have some 15s on the rear, and big meat...
also..
weight reduction 101, as performed on my 2002 Stratus RT..
rear seat delete.
passenger seat delete.
spare tire delete.
jack and factory tools delete.
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01-30-2006, 07:15 PM
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RE: Supercharging the new Challenger
i mean, if im driving from detroit to pittsburgh, then yes, i have a spare..but i dont even know why, because my sub box covers the entire spare, and its a nightmare to get the spare out..if i got a flat, AAA would be towing my car home...and we use rentals to go on long trips, except things like the nationals...anyways, half of the jacks that come with cars now are so damn cheap, that they wont lift the car if youre on any angle...they just buckle.
ironically, the last time that we ran the RT,i forgot to take the jack,tools (including some extras), the spare and the subs out...
and i run expensive yokohama tires...if i get a flat, im going to be livid...and as for the blow out (knock on wood) ive only ever seen it happen to cheap tires...
ironically, the last time that we ran the RT,i forgot to take the jack,tools (including some extras), the spare and the subs out...
and i run expensive yokohama tires...if i get a flat, im going to be livid...and as for the blow out (knock on wood) ive only ever seen it happen to cheap tires...
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RE: Supercharging the new Challenger
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i mean, if im driving from detroit to pittsburgh, then yes, i have a spare..but i dont even know why, because my sub box covers the entire spare, and its a nightmare to get the spare out..if i got a flat, AAA would be towing my car home...and we use rentals to go on long trips, except things like the nationals...anyways, half of the jacks that come with cars now are so damn cheap, that they wont lift the car if youre on any angle...they just buckle.
ironically, the last time that we ran the RT,i forgot to take the jack,tools (including some extras), the spare and the subs out...
and i run expensive yokohama tires...if i get a flat, im going to be livid...and as for the blow out (knock on wood) ive only ever seen it happen to cheap tires...
i mean, if im driving from detroit to pittsburgh, then yes, i have a spare..but i dont even know why, because my sub box covers the entire spare, and its a nightmare to get the spare out..if i got a flat, AAA would be towing my car home...and we use rentals to go on long trips, except things like the nationals...anyways, half of the jacks that come with cars now are so damn cheap, that they wont lift the car if youre on any angle...they just buckle.
ironically, the last time that we ran the RT,i forgot to take the jack,tools (including some extras), the spare and the subs out...
and i run expensive yokohama tires...if i get a flat, im going to be livid...and as for the blow out (knock on wood) ive only ever seen it happen to cheap tires...
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01-30-2006, 09:54 PM
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RE: Supercharging the new Challenger
eh..i see where you are coming from, but as odd as it may seem, my ramcharger doesnt have a spare, amandas truck doesnt have a spare, and the RT spare is there sometimes, but its a pain in the arse to get to...i obviously know how to change a tire, but i dont think that i would bother, and the only time that i go anywhere that i dont have cell service would be driving to PA, or a racing event, in which case i would have the race tires for the stratus and a floor jack, or if we are just going to visit, i would have a rental...
and now that i think about it..i cant recall the last time that i straight didnt hav service...sometimes i go onto analog, but never 'no service"...but i see your point...other than racing events and driving home, the farthest that i have driven in probably a year was to go to the autoshow in downtown detroit...in the ramcharger, with no spare and a cooling issue...it leaks coolant, so tires are the least of my concern..lol
and now that i think about it..i cant recall the last time that i straight didnt hav service...sometimes i go onto analog, but never 'no service"...but i see your point...other than racing events and driving home, the farthest that i have driven in probably a year was to go to the autoshow in downtown detroit...in the ramcharger, with no spare and a cooling issue...it leaks coolant, so tires are the least of my concern..lol
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RE: Supercharging the new Challenger
Well like I said I think it is irresponsible for a manufacturer not to offer one. It would be just like the situation that the White Star Line was in when they decided not to have enough life boats on the Titantic. If you don't want to carry your's, more power to you, but manufactures have a responsibility to offer that even if the tires are supposed to be unflatable just like the ship was unsinkable. I can see your point on not having in your car so then you can race. A valid point.
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RE: Supercharging the new Challenger
This is a little tid bit of info that I got off another board on the stang.
Ford does not want this car to be as mod friendly as the 03/04's were. They are tired of people demodding and going in for warranty work. So they designed the GT500 with great pistons, because that is something that can fail even when in stock form if they suck, but the rods are designed for only a fraction more power than what the car will make stock. So if you start upping the power to say (550 rwhp) things will start to go bad really quick. I am at about 600rw with my 04 cobra, and the total cost of all of my mods, and a new repaint that I just had done for show purposes, I still am not at the $40K sticker of the 07 GT500. + my cobra weighs about 230 lbs less. Another thing, The blower pulley is hugging down on the snout pretty close, so in order to swap your upper pulley you will either need to have the snout machined (not recommended because it will weaken the snout), have the snout replaced with some not yet available aftermarket version, or do a complete blower swap to a whipple or something else. The lower crank pulley swap to up the boost is also a no go due to clearance issues, and that it will take about 16 hours to do the swap and at the most you will only gain 1.5 lbs of boost. Also, there may be a check in the computer that is a stand alone system that will not be accessible for corruption or tampering. This will flag if the boost is ever raised higher than stock specs. So when you go in to the dealership and they plug in the Ford database will automatically void your warranty. And for any warranty work to be done the dealer must plug in, so there will be no "mod friendly dealerships" any more. Also, I was allowed to go through the car pretty well at a car show, and I think that it will be almost impossible to put a rear tire wider than a 295 on the back. Heck, I have 315's on my 04, and that is not yet the max that I can go. This has all been discussed on all of the mustang boards, I just figured I would pass this info on to you all.
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RE: Supercharging the new Challenger
Based on what we think we know about the car, what do you think is the 3 three things to improve performance that would be be low cost.
1. CAT back exhaust?
2. cold air induction?
3. program the computer?
4. Smaller pulleys?
5. Headers?
Any thoughts?
1. CAT back exhaust?
2. cold air induction?
3. program the computer?
4. Smaller pulleys?
5. Headers?
Any thoughts?
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RE: Supercharging the new Challenger
If you were to super charged the SRT8, I think it would smoke the GT500, but price of the SRT8 and the super charger would surpass the GT500. so go CHEAP with nitrous! make sure you use it right