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1 Bad Mirada 09-06-2006 12:47 PM

RE: Porsche 911 beats out 'Vette and Viper
 
but where do you put a car like the new BMW M6..or the M5? These are full scale luxury cars with ALOT of power...

RLSH700 09-06-2006 01:01 PM

RE: Porsche 911 beats out 'Vette and Viper
 
The M5 is a sedan; therefore, I would classify that as a luxury sport sedan. The M6 I would list as a luxury sport coupe. In my mind, its a different class. The Viper is all about performance, whereas the BMWs are ment to compete in luxury as well as performance. The M6 is limited to a 155mph top speed; meanwhile, the Viper goes up to 190. The Viper is still faster.

There isn't a domestic equivalent to the M6 because Cadillac doesn't have a hard top, and neither Lincoln or Cadillac is a serious contender anymore if you ask me. If Chrysler gets the Crossfire, then it might have a domestic equivalent.

1 Bad Mirada 09-06-2006 01:05 PM

RE: Porsche 911 beats out 'Vette and Viper
 
i typically dont consider top speed to be a good indicator of speed, as odd as that may sound, because of speed governors...

while the viper is an awesome car, i feel that it is far too often touted as being this untouchable monster, which simply isnt the case...hell, the mirada will beat non-srt10 vipers in the quarter mile...:D

if i had 90,000 to spend on a car, i would have a hard time buying the viper over the M6, simply because the M6 is such a complete vehicle...if i was buying a car purely for track fun, it would be down to a viper or a Z06..but at 3200lbs, the Z06 is hard to turn down at 20 grand less.

TechmanBD 09-06-2006 01:09 PM

RE: Porsche 911 beats out 'Vette and Viper
 
90 g's, wouldn't be hard for me.:D Porsche 911. Or even the new Ducati coming out. = 65g's = 200HP at rear wheel[sm=hail.gif]

RLSH700 09-06-2006 01:16 PM

RE: Porsche 911 beats out 'Vette and Viper
 

ORIGINAL: 1 Bad Mirada

i typically dont consider top speed to be a good indicator of speed, as odd as that may sound, because of speed governors...

while the viper is an awesome car, i feel that it is far too often touted as being this untouchable monster, which simply isnt the case...hell, the mirada will beat non-srt10 vipers in the quarter mile...:D

if i had 90,000 to spend on a car, i would have a hard time buying the viper over the M6, simply because the M6 is such a complete vehicle...if i was buying a car purely for track fun, it would be down to a viper or a Z06..but at 3200lbs, the Z06 is hard to turn down at 20 grand less.
The Z06 is techincally $14,000 less expensive than the Viper. It is like the writers of many articles say. A fan of a particular car isn't going to care about the other one, and I'm like that. In the real world, I can't afford any of them. The simple fact is I don't really like the Corvette. It does nothing for me.

Your right that the BMW M6 is a very tempting car at the $13,000 price difference between the two. The fact is the BMW is nicer in terms of luxuries, but it isn't as fast in terms of acceleration either. The only thing I will say is if the BMW is anywhere near as uncomfortable as a Mercedes SL500, then there is now way I would consider it.

Remember your Mirada isn't stock vs. some of those non-SRT Vipers might be stock. The fact is I like the looks of the Viper the best out of all of them. I do have a bias towards the Viper, I'll admit that. It all depends on what you value.

1 Bad Mirada 09-06-2006 01:37 PM

RE: Porsche 911 beats out 'Vette and Viper
 
true, the vipers that i have beaten were stock or near stock, and the mirada is not, but considering that im in a 1983 family coupe, and they were in a supercar, i should get some slack...:D

RLSH700 09-06-2006 01:43 PM

RE: Porsche 911 beats out 'Vette and Viper
 
True I will give you that. How much weight difference is there between the two?

The thing is I just don't like the idea of comparing a luxury sport coupe to a supercar. To me it is like comparing an SRT-4 to a Mustang GT. It depends on the owners preference. A Ferrari in my opinion is a better comparison to the Viper, but still. The people who want a Viper will never be able to afford a Ferrari and the Ferrari fans will never consider a Viper.

1 Bad Mirada 09-06-2006 01:51 PM

RE: Porsche 911 beats out 'Vette and Viper
 
a viper coupe weighs around 3420...the mirada weighs 3692

RLSH700 09-06-2006 02:57 PM

RE: Porsche 911 beats out 'Vette and Viper
 
Is that a normal Mirada or your's? That is one heavy car.

1 Bad Mirada 09-06-2006 03:29 PM

RE: Porsche 911 beats out 'Vette and Viper
 
mine..and im running a fiberglass hood, front fascia, trunk lid, no trunk interior, all aluminum wheels, no back seat, light front seats...but i also have a much heavier than stock rear end...suspension, etc


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