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roadagent 09-13-2008 08:09 AM

Street Racing Ethics ?
 
I've already asked 2 people I know personally,and obviously respect thier Ethics and Values or wouldn't have asked,and got two different answers.

If you were cruising down the interstate and another car came up and wanted to race so you both got even and then stomped on it and the other guy crashed,straight line racing by the way,would you stop?I'm sure to most it would depend on the severity of the crash,so I'll explain.

The other night I was on my way home and a Mustang,nice looking but it was dark so I don't know if it was a plain GT or a Cobra,obviously with some mods pulled along side and we started playing.After a few miles of back and forth teasing we lined up.I stomped it first and then he hit it.I don't know if he had nitrous or a supercharger or what,but he broke the tires loose at 70mph and started sliding,at least that's what I'm guessing happened.Luckily I was ahead of him so when he spun out he missed me.I saw the whole thing in my rear view.He backed it into the guardrail,it wasn't a bad hit and nobody else hit him but I was nervous and didn't wanna be around if the cops showed up so I didn't stop.I was sorry for him cuz it looked like a nice car and I'm reasonably sure nothing happened to him.

So my question is should I have stopped,would most of you?

rickerda 09-13-2008 08:23 AM

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There are alot of factors, time of day, amount of traffic. But I would have stopped.

If it had been the other way around would you expect/wanted the other driver to stop and check on you?

Andre@Edge 09-13-2008 10:04 AM

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If no one was hurt I would have kept going. Why wait for the speeding ticket. The Stang will most likely be sited for the skid marks where he broke free. You want to tell the police why that happened? If it was serious I would stop long enough to make sure everyone was ok.
I bet the guy in the stang would throw you under the bus when he tells his story. No one likes to take blame for crashing... always someone else, or faulty equipment.

RoswellGrey 09-13-2008 10:33 AM

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Andre pegged it exactly right.

Jeremiah 29:11 09-13-2008 11:49 AM

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Okay guys I think some of you are missing the point as to why we have laws.

Let's take it a step further, what if he ran into another car and wound up killing a family with children but they are not dead yet.
You don't know how hurt they are.

Would you have stopped then? You bet you would, you don't want to find out that you could have saved somebodies life by helping them out.

That will haunt you if you are any kind of human being.

You could have prevented this to begin with my not racing at all.

I hope you get my point.

Street Racing ethics are mutually exclusive terms.

Justinec101 09-13-2008 07:02 PM

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I wouldn't be racing on a public interstate.

mopar2ya 09-13-2008 08:26 PM

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The fact is there was some horseplay. Things got to a level that wasnt anticipated. Weve all been there at one point or another... in one situation or another.

Then the unthinkable happens... life does that to us sometimes. Fear and confusion can have a huge impact on how we cope with the situation. Obviously in this incident getting out of there was the first thing that came to mind after assessing that the driver was percieved to be ok. Perception is probably not the most reliable tool to evalute the severity of this type of situation. I think at that point one should really take a good hard look at the big picture and go back and make sure everyone is ok. If they are not then you might just have to buck up and take your licks. If everything is ok then I would say it is probably ok to move on. Afterall... if you were first to roll upon an accident scene in normal circumstances wouldnt you feel a responsability to make sure everyone was ok?

If a situation goes to this level and the result is a crash then regrouping and going back and checking things out is definately the basic responsibilty of anyone nearby... let alone anyone being a party to what escalated matters to this level. You definately should have stopped and checked things out... if you had then you would not likely be here asking the question. You would either be satisfied with the outcome of your follow thru and not feeling the need to ask... or you would be in jail and unable to access the forum to ask. ;)

Wait let me check... maybe they have internet in jail now as a fundamental basic human right... :eek:

Sounds like you did the best you could think of considering the circumstances at hand. I for one am a red-blooded American male who too often fails to make the right and proper decision in similar circumstances so I would be a liar and a hypocrite to say I would never race or do anything so foolish it might lead to similar circumstances.

Just my 2 cents...

RyanNY 09-13-2008 08:38 PM

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ORIGINAL: Andre@Edge

If no one was hurt I would have kept going. Why wait for the speeding ticket. The Stang will most likely be sited for the skid marks where he broke free. You want to tell the police why that happened? If it was serious I would stop long enough to make sure everyone was ok.
I bet the guy in the stang would throw you under the bus when he tells his story. No one likes to take blame for crashing... always someone else, or faulty equipment.
Amen.

MrKrisSullivan 09-13-2008 08:54 PM

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Well if the Stang did have "faulty equipment" then it was his fault and he'll get the ticket... As to going back and checking the tires on the road I doubt they could prove anything to a "reasonable doubt"...
Plus there cops and only what you say can be held against you in a court of law... right?... Yeah I would of went back and if the guy was that much of a jerk, I would of just lied my ass off and drove away...

RUBBERBNDMAN 09-13-2008 10:35 PM

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In Washington they will ticket for racing...If other dude or witnesses say they were racing your dead.

rickerda 09-13-2008 11:28 PM

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Let’s see, you don’t stop, the guy with the Mustang is stuck along side the road until the police show up. They figure out what happened, the guy describes your Challenger and provides you personalized license plate (you do have personalized plates don’t you?) You get cited for speeding, racing and leaving the scene of an accident. Or you go help the guy and law enforcement never needs to get involve.

Bottom line, don’t do anything you’re not willing to take responsibility for.

stevelegel 09-14-2008 03:56 AM

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I want to be friendly and buddies with everybody on the forum. But I have to agree with the other posts about street racing and safety for others. There is no good reason for street racing. Several years ago here in Detroit there was an accident resulting from a street race where several people not involved were killed.

Like they say on Pinks, racing off the street is fun and safe

In my mind, the 6.1 Hemi emblem on the hood, and all the media hype, as well as the continual attention getting is plenty enough fun for me.

I'm glad you are safe, and well, for fun..see the "mad Mustangs" thread.
Steve

KMPX2 09-14-2008 04:59 AM

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I am glad you called it street raceing and not Drag Raceing. Drag Raceing gets alot of bad press from fools out on the street playing games. Guys like me that have big money tied up in the sport get bashed by the press from what guys out on the street do.

This is just my rant and not pointed at you

RoswellGrey 09-14-2008 12:41 PM

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ORIGINAL: KMPX2

I am glad you called it street raceing and not Drag Raceing.


Of course, the very term "drag racing" COMES from racing on the street. Ever heard the major street of a town being referred to as the "main drag"? ;)

KMPX2 09-15-2008 04:18 AM

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ORIGINAL: RoswellGrey



ORIGINAL: KMPX2

I am glad you called it street raceing and not Drag Raceing.


Of course, the very term "drag racing" COMES from racing on the street. Ever heard the major street of a town being referred to as the "main drag"? ;)
Yes and NASCAR is nothing but a bunch of old time bootleg wiskey runners. The thing is alot of people have done alot of work to make auto sports safe and respectable. But everytime some kid in a old rust bucket pairs off with his buddy and gets hurd all you here in the news is drag racing is the root of all evil.

BLK 6050 09-23-2008 02:15 PM

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Shouldn't have to ask the question.....because you shouldn't be street racing.......gives all of us who like to drive performance cars a black eye when you do something stupid and others get hurt. That's why we all pay more for insurance on any car that has a "performance" name, no matter what engine it has under the hood. If you need to prove something.....take it to the strip, or even better get yourself on "Pinks"...and see if you really are the fastest.


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