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Piracy watchdog hails Indian attack on pirate ship

By EILEEN NG – 2 hours ago

KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia (AP) — An anti-piracy watchdog group on Thursday welcomed an Indian warship's destruction of a suspected pirate vessel in waters off Somalia, where hijackings have become increasingly violent and the hijackers increasingly bold.

In a rare victory in the sea war against the Somali pirates, the Indian navy's INS Tabar sank a suspected pirate "mother ship" in the Gulf of Aden and chased two attack boats on Tuesday.

Noel Choong, who heads the International Maritime Bureau's piracy reporting center in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, said he was heartened by the Tabar's success.

"It's about time that such a forceful action is taken. It's an action that everybody is waiting for," Choong told The Associated Press.

"If all warships do this, it will be a strong deterrent. But if it's just a rare case, then it won't work" to control the unprecedented level of piracy in the Gulf of Aden, he said.

The pirates have stunned the maritime community with their brazen attacks, highlighted by last week's hijacking of a Saudi-owned supertanker loaded with $100 million worth of crude oil.

A spokesman for Vela International Marine Ltd., the tanker's owner, said the company "took the decision to maintain no comment" on issues concerning the tanker, including the ransom demanded for release of the vessel and the 25-member crew.

Spokesman Mihir Sapru said he could neither "deny nor confirm" negotiations between the pirates and the oil tanker's owners are under way.

The Indian navy said the Tabar, operating off the coast of Oman, stopped the ship because it appeared similar to a pirate vessel mentioned in numerous piracy bulletins. It said the pirates fired at the Tabar after the officers asked it to stop to be searched.

Indian forces fired back, sparking fires and a series of onboard blasts — possibly caused by exploding ammunition — which destroyed the ship.

Since the beginning of the year, 39 ships have been hijacked in the Gulf of Aden out of 95 attacked. Eight were hijacked in the last two weeks.

Besides India, several other countries including the United States and the North Atlantic Treaty Organization have warships patrolling the area. But attacks have continued unabated off Somalia, which is caught up in an Islamic insurgency and has had no functioning government since 1991.

Pirates dock the hijacked ships near the eastern and southern Somalian coast and negotiate for ransom.

Choong and other officials say patrolling warships are hampered by a lack of a mandate to bring the hijackers to justice. Many European countries have restrictions on how far their ships can go in engaging the pirates, and many countries interpret international laws on piracy differently.

For example, NATO ships can intervene to prevent the seizure of ships if they are in the vicinity.

"But what they don't have the mandate to do is to board ships that have already been hijacked to free the crew," NATO spokesman James Appathurai told The Associated Press in Brussels.

Germany does not allow its warships to intercept hijacked vessels because their civilian crews of various nationalities could be at risk in the event of a fire-fight, Choong said.

On Wednesday, Russia's ambassador to NATO, Dmitry Rogozin, called on the international community to launch a joint amphibious operation against pirate strongholds in Somalia.

However, any such operation would likely require the approval of the U.N. Security Council, whose resolutions on anti-piracy operations are vague, Choong said.

On Thursday, representatives of six Arab countries met in an attempt to forge a strategy against the hijackings. Representatives from Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Jordan, Sudan and Somalia met in Cairo.

Egyptian diplomat Wafaa Bassem, who was chairing the meeting, said options include setting up a piracy monitoring center, joint maneuvers by Arab navies and a warning systems for ships navigating the Red Sea.

Associated Press writers Vijay Joshi in Kuala Lumpur, Slobodan Lekic in Brussels and Barbara Surk in Dubai contributed to this report.
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Old 11-20-2008, 04:49 AM
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Gee...were is the UN? Sounds like an International Problem that they should be involved in solving (Like that group can solve any of the worlds problems..they are worthless).
The U.S. Navy was created to help combat pirates off our shores....they had the right answer...shoot first and ask questions later.....(Got to love a sound policy that solves the problem)

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Gee...were is the UN? Sounds like an International Problem that they should be involved in solving (Like that group can solve any of the worlds problems..they are worthless).
The U.S. Navy was created to help combat pirates off our shores....they had the right answer...shoot first and ask questions later.....(Got to love a sound policy that solves the problem)

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Actually, the U.S Navy currently IS involved in an international effort to eradicate the pirates operating off the coast of Somalia. For the past few weeks, there have been numerous stories in the newspapers about this situation. It sounds funny, but it's actually pretty serious. The Somali pirates usually seize some kind of a merchant ship, steal the cargo, sell it off and then hold the crew members captive till someone (a government or their families or whoever) pays a ransom.
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Why aren't these ships armed? I mean to me this is commonsense that you will need to have them armed in this day and age with the section of the world this is located.
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You mean the ships that have been seized? Good question. Maybe it's an insurance issue. Or maybe it has to do with maritime law.

One of the ships that was seized a while back was a cruise liner (French-flagged, I believe). I don't know if it would be legal for a passenger ship to be armed.
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Then it's a law that needs to be reconsidered.
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What they need are some “Q-Ships” sailing around in pirate waters as bait. These were used during WWI and early WWII and were civilian ships that had guns hidden behind panels…when an enemy (pirate) ship approaches, the panels go down and the guns go into action….Actually, with today’s weapons, all you need to do is position small groups of Marines abroad, armed with stringer missiles…no more pirates……and no more problems…….
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