lear4406

Before my brother moved to Kansas last year, he worked the 10 years previous at an auto machine shop. They do performance and stock rebuilds. I asked him how good the newer Hemis were and how easy was the rebuild. Rebuild heads, over bore ect. He had never saw a Hemi in for a rebuild. 10 years and no Hemi. I think that speaks volumes to how well put together the new Hemis are. Said he did alot of magnums and LTs. As well as 4.6s and LS1s. But never saw a Hemi... gotta love that.

Riptide

Sales figures probably account for some of that. GM sells a lot more cars than Chrysler.

BootCamp

If that were entirely true, and his brother has seen NO HEMI rebuilds - LLC is either making one hell of a durable and reliable powerplant, or they've sold NO HEMIs.
I'll bet on the former and not the latter.

roadagent

Originally Posted by kevin2323
the fact is the mustang is faster per$ you spend on it....the hemis are really pricey to mod...

ok explain this then,how can I get a ProCharger Supercharger for $4500 and make the same horsepower as the GT500,when for $4500 a regular GT wouldn't even come close

kevin2323

because your using the 6.1 engine not the smaller 4.6 or 5.4 engine...im speaking overall parts for the stang are cheaper than the hemis ....not knocking our stuff at all.

BLK 6050

It has always and will forever cost more to "hot rod" a Mopar compared to the more numerous Chevy's and Ford...it's just a fact of life that we Mopar owners have to accept.
But, we start out with a better package, so that helps.

Riptide

$4500? That would pay for a Vortech V3 non IC and installation plus dyno tune from brenspeed. You're looking at a bare minimum of 400rwhp at that point. GT500 territory? Not quite, but damn close.

Thor77

I don't think we should even include mods in bench racing. Once those enter the arena, only timeslips or direct competition have much validity. Statements like: "I can easily pick up (insert necessary number here for sake of argument) hp with a chip, intake, exhaust," are good for forum arguments, but unless you buy the components, put them in, and dyno the car, you don't really know if that's true for the particular parts, installation, and engine that you have.

So far it seems like the Mustang and Challenger are very close, and would be a driver's race.

Camaro, based on weight/hp and hp/$ looks like the winner by pure numbers.

But I only care about that a little. The Challenger is just a much cooler car.

Riptide

Oh I agree but someone else brought up the whole mod "debate". Clearly the mustang is the best bang for the buck right now in that department. Buy a new one for 24 grand, dump another 10 into it, and you're faster than a GT500.

But you are right that there is more to a car than how fast it can go for x dollars. Aesthetics are important. Very important. If I thought a car was ugly as piss I wouldn't want it. Porsche comes to mind there. Just ugly ass frog cars. I can't stand the front ends and those headlights. I don't give a crap how fast it is I wouldn't want one.

lear4406

But the SRT-8 Challenger and SS Camaro would be a toss up despite what the Chevy boys believe. It will be sweet to see these two go at it.