bigdaddywiz

any work done to that albeeno? is that the ace up your sleeve that will allow you not to worry?

-not being a smart a$$, just assuming its not stock with how sure you are about beating one!

KyChallengerR/T6spd

You never know what you are running or how good or bad a driver they are. I ran a 4.6 GT in the 1/4 last Sat. I had no traction to 4th gear. Or did anything on street tire's that day. The Mustang just ran away from me on top end . By several car length's all of a sudden . I later got a look under his hood. He had NOS and mod's. The Challenger is heavy. With me it weighted in at 4352 at the end of the day. I love it . But don't think it is a steet fighter now. Or stock anyway with the 5.7 Hemi. My Mopar Club is going to a local 1/8th mile track on the 21st. Maybe I'll give it another try. Maybe I shouldn't judge the car yet. I think my first run's back in 73 with a Buick GS Stage 1 Skylark with 455 . Where in the high 14's with lot of wheel spin . It weighted around 4200 lb with me in it . I got it down to 8 sec. flat in 1/8 and ran a 13.03 spinning a little with 9 inch slick's in the 1/4 mile , gears and legal stock NHRA 315 hp 455 . And still street driven. So I will leave judgement till I get some traction and a good run. I know I'm not very good with stick at the track.

bigdaddywiz

take a look at this thread from over at another challenger forum...i was skeptical myself at first about street cred with the R/T, but after reading through, i'm convinced the R/T is a serious contender. its only going to get better as people get used to the car.

http://www.challengertalk.com/forums...es-here-11448/

also, there are people who are running low 13's BONE STOCK. the car just has to be driven right. dodgetony has proven a 13.12 run with his stock R/T with just a filter pull and lowered air pressure in the rear tires. others are running very close to that. i wouldnt judge it just yet. this summer, the streets and strip should see the true colors of this car.

KyChallengerR/T6spd

I was disapointed at the track . I just could not get any traction. The car felt really strong. But that does not make for a low ET if you can't hook up. A K&N drop in air filter is the only thing different from the day it was pulled out of the showroom. And 8000 miles on it now. Letting the air in rear tires down to 25 did help alot. I ran a 16 before that . But I took off very easy and still broke loose as soon as I stepped into it in third to run my best of 14.90 at 96 mph. Maybe I'll have better luck the next time. The automatic does not have the pos in a R/T that I know of . And I do with my 6 speed.

Albeeno

No "ace up my sleeve" man. It's an all-original 2005 Mustang GT. I know this will be difficult to believe for some, but Road & Track had the 6-spd R/T Challenger going 0-60 in 6.2 seconds and the standing 1/4 mile in 14.5 @ 99.0 MPH in their road test. These are proven, espected automotive journalists who I have to believe know what they're doing behind the wheel. To add insult to injury, the price-as-tested was $39,055!

http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....rticle_id=7179

Conversley, my stock GT will do 0-60 in 5.3 and the 1/4 mile in 13.9 seconds. If memory serves, I think paid roughly $28K for mine back in Nov. 2005.

I am by no means putting the Challenger down, but if you look purely at the numbers, you could easily see why I have a lot of difficulty believing some of the claims being posted here. I just don't see how a stock R/T would even be in the same zip code as me. Until some "Challenger" makes me take my medicine, I will continue to believe what I believe.

I realize it's not all about the performance. There are many, many other attributes that I love, respect and admire about the Challenger. I just wish I saw them more often...

Thor77

Albeeno, you always post that anomalous R&T test, which does not seem representative of other magazine tests, nor of the experience of forum users here. I always post the Motor Trend test as a counter example. You never reply.

Motor Trend has 5.1 sec to 60, 1/4 in 13.6.

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...lenger_rt.html

Car and Driver also runs 5.1 seconds to 60

http://www.caranddriver.com/buying_g...on+id-263.html


So while it is certainly possible to run slow in an R/T, many people have run faster than the Mustang numbers you quote. So you should just hope that it is a Road and Track staff member lined up against you.

The as-tested price includes all sorts of optional gadgetry, and should not be considered in a performance/value calculation. MSRP starts at 30K, 31 with Track Pak, which is the only really performance oriented option, with the possible exception of the 20" wheels to get the 3.92 rather than 3.73. In 2005 dollars, the prices are about equal.

Anyone who would buy a 39K R/T is not purely looking at speed/$, because if they were, they'd bump up to the SRT for only a couple thousand more.

bigdaddywiz

yeah, albeeno those road and track times are definatly in the minorty with what these cars are capable of(in the hands of a capable driver that is). i respect what your mustang can do, and thats pretty impressive too, but i've been reading too many other times, seen too many other track time slips and have heard too many other stories of r/t's eating gt's for lunch to believe a stock gt and take a stock r/t with ease. sure, we'll see some win, but it will be because the r/t owner couldnt drive. just like those road and track JOURNALISTS are also so called "drivers." 0-60 in 6.2 and 14.5@99 is just rediculous when you conisider a charger with the old 5.7 and less aggressive gearing was faster. doesnt make sense now, does it?

KyChallenger, you may want to pm dodgetony to get some tips on launching your r/t if your having problems hooking up. hes the guy running 13.12 @ 108 in his STOCK r/t. good luck!

mot250

One word, traction (or three words, lack-of-traction). More HP and lower gears means most will have a harder time with wheelspin, effectively making 1/4 times worse.

KyChallengerR/T6spd

If so what tire's do you have . Your launch rpm or any tips. I also got wheel hop bad in 4th gear. Think that was do to trying to get traction . It doesn't do that on the street.

RUBBERBNDMAN

Sorry, but my only kill was a GT500 6sp.It was close but I did win.